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Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

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  1. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

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    Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    Brookvale Oval
    Friday 23rd May 2008


    Start your weekend in the best possible way with a Friday night footy clash against the Dragons at Brookvale Oval.  With the Sea Eagles flying high in 2nd position on the NRL Ladder now is the perfect time to come and support your team.

    Brett Stewart,
    Michael Robertson,
    Steve Matai,
    Jamie Lyon,
    David Williams,
    Steve Menzies,
    Matt Orford ©,
    Brent Kite,
    Matt Ballin,
    Josh Perry,
    Anthony Watmough,
    Glenn Stewart,
    Luke Williamson

    Heath L'Estrange,
    Glenn Hall,
    Adam Cuthbertson,
    Mark Bryant,
    Nick Bradley-Qalilawa
    (1 player to be omitted)

    1. Brett MORRIS
    2. Jason NIGHTINGALE
    3. Mark GASNIER ©
    4. Matt COOPER
    5. Josh MORRIS
    6. Jamie SOWARD
    7. Ben HORNBY
    8. Justin POORE
    9. Dean YOUNG
    10. Jason RYLES
    11. Beau SCOTT
    12. Lagi SETU
    13. Ben CREAGH

    14. Kirk REYNOLDSON
    15. Dan HUNT
    16. Simon WOOLFORD
    17. Stuart WEBB
    18. Rangi CHASE
    19. Michael LETT
    20. Chase STANLEY

    7.30pm – NRL Kick-off
    5.30pm – Toyota Cup Kick Off
    3:30pm - NSW Cup vs Auckland
    3:15pm – Gates Open
    3:00pm – Box Office Open
  2. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    Sea Eagles Toyota Cup Team:
    Rhys Wolloghan, Trent Reilly, Mark Page, Matt Grieve, Bodie O’Connell, Kieran Foran, Daly Cherry-Evans, Inoke Tapaatoutai, Jamie Buhrer, Ilija Radan, Darcy Lussick, Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, Kenny Edwards
    Interchange: Jai Jones-Wiegold, Zac Bowles, Todd Wilson, James Cunningham, Ben Uptin, Cameron Woo, Lincoln Gutherson, Brad Bennett
    Coach: David Penna

    Sea Eagles NSW Cup Team:
    Sean Meaney, Andrew Everingham, Jon Grieve, James Mortimer, Gideon Mzembe, Shane Neumann, Jeff Robson (c), Chris Trembath, Ray Nasso, Phil Morwood, Jack Afamasaga, Vic Mauro, Jason Wells
    Interchange: Trent Rose, Tim Browne, George Rose, Dean Connell, Mark Offerdahl
    Coach: Craig Sandercock
  3. easystreet

    easystreet Member

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    I see that George Rose is on the bench for the NSW Cup yeam this week.Is this his is first game back?
  4. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    No - I think it was reported earlier on this site that he has had some minutes in NSW Cup side, about three weeks ago and the assumption is that he has played each week.
  5. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    Referee :  Jason Robinson
    Sideline Official: David Abood, Steve Carrall; Video Referee: Phil Cooley

    Stats under Robinson
    Manly won 2 lost 2

    Dragons won 4 lost 0

    interesting facts

    last time Robinson reffed a Manly game was r20 2006 v Penrith at Brookie (the great come from behind win)
    He has never reffed a Sea Eagle v Dragons game

    also last time he reffed the Dragons was also 2006 where they beat souths 38 - 28 at Kogarah
  6. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    Overall Head-to-head Records
    Played 11; St George Illawarra 8, Manly 3

    Head-to-head at Brookvale Oval
    Played 5; St George Illawarra 3, Manly 2

    Record Crowd these Clubs (Excludes Finals)
    18637 at Brookvale Oval, 2/9/2007 (Rd 25), Manly Won 28 - 24

    Last 10 Games Head-to-head:
    Played 10; St George Illawarra 7, Manly 3

    Won By Score Venue Date

    Manly 28 - 24 Brookvale Oval 2/9/2007 (Rd 25)
    St George Illawarra 26 - 22 Oki Jubilee Stadium 1/7/2007 (Rd 16)
    St George Illawarra 28 - 0 Sydney Football Stadium 15/9/2006 (Rd 28)
    St George Illawarra 26 - 24 Brookvale Oval 15/4/2006 (Rd 6)
    St George Illawarra 36 - 10 Brookvale Oval 17/7/2005 (Rd 19)
    St George Illawarra 32 - 6 WIN Stadium 9/4/2005 (Rd 5)
    St George Illawarra 36 - 34 Oki Jubilee Stadium 29/8/2004 (Rd 25)
    Manly 21 - 10 Brookvale Oval 9/5/2004 (Rd 9)
    St George Illawarra 42 - 28 Brookvale Oval 28/6/2003 (Rd 16)
    Manly 38 - 12 WIN Stadium 13/4/2003 (Rd 5)

    Biggest Head-to-head Wins

    Manly 38 - 12 WIN Stadium 13/4/2003 (Rd 5)
    St George Illawarra 28 - 0 Sydney Football Stadium 15/9/2006 (Rd 28)

    Most Tries in a Match Head-to-head

    3 S Donald (Manly) Manly Lost 28 - 42 (Rd 16, 2003)
    3 L Patten (St George Illawarra) St George Illawarra Won 20 - 18 (Rd 26, 1999)

    Most Goals in a Match Head-to-head

    6 W Naiqama (St George Illawarra) St George Illawarra Won 36 - 10 (Rd 19, 2005)
    4 M Orford (Manly) Manly Won 28 - 24 (Rd 25, 2007)

    Most Points in a Match Head-to-head

    16 W Naiqama (St George Illawarra)(1T, 6G, 0FG) St George Illawarra Won 36 - 10 (Rd 19, 2005)
    14 B Walker (Manly)(2T, 3G, 0FG) Manly Won 38 - 12 (Rd 5, 2003)​
  7. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    Sea Eagles

    Points Scored: 24 p/g  
    Points Conceded: 13.22 p/g 
    Tries Scored: 4.33 p/g 
    Tries Conceded: 2.11 p/g 
    Completion Rates: 30.9/41.2 (74.9%)  
    Line Breaks: 4.67 p/g
    Tackle Busts: 36.44 p/g
    Missed Tackles: 31.22 p/g
    Metres Gained: 1409.44 p/g


    Points Scored: 21.11 p/g
    Points Conceded: 18 p/g
    Tries Scored: 3.56 p/g
    Tries Conceded: 3.11 p/g
    Completion Rates: 28.9/38.2 (75.6%)
    Line Breaks: 3.89 p/g
    Tackle Busts: 36.78 p/g
    Missed Tackles: 26.22 p/g
    Metres Gained: 1394.67 p/g
  8. ants

    ants Active Member

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    That game in 2004 at oki jubilee still haunts me, i'm pretty sure this was the game where we led by about 30 with about 15 minutes to go and every dragons supporter had just about left!!  How we finished up losing that game I will never know...
  9. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    We lost because the Ox went for the great selfish play, should have passed the ball, if he had off, we score, we win. 
  10. Dan

    Dan Kim Jong Dan Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    I thought it was Monas who did that, went for a make or break play and it was a break and we lost.

    We weren't goping to re-sign monas after that
  11. Garts

    Garts Well-Known Member

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    Was Monas, Ox was not around till 2006.
  12. willstyles

    willstyles Active Member

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    The hero play was Ox, but it was at Oki last year not in '04.

    I can't remember Monas going for a hero play in our collapse in '04, but that was basically the worst 15 minutes of football in Manly's recent history. Disgraceful stuff.
  13. DVS Matt

    DVS Matt Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    Piggy Riddell was just running at A.Walker in the 2nd half and making easy metres.

    I remember some great sideline conversions by Willo that day - too bad we capitulated.

    Also, i think Beaver broke a record that day......which one was it?
  14. SilentBob

    SilentBob Well-Known Member

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    I noticed the NRL site has T. Burns listed as out injured indefinitely for us.
  15. Berkeley_Eagle

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    Sea Eagles v Dragons Preview
    Big League

    Brookvale Oval
    Friday 7.45pm

    UNUSUAL that a team sitting second on the ladder would be welcoming back just one Origin rep to the fold, while their 13th-placed opponents sweat on three key members backing up in what looms as a crucial encounter for the red-and-whites.

    While the Sea Eagles are building nice momentum with six wins from their past seven games – including a flashy 38-6 demolition of the Cowboys last week – the Dragons present a major headache this week.

    They are definitely Manly’s bogey side, winning eight of 11 clashes and Brookvale Oval will hold no qualms for them as they have won three of five games at the peninsula “fortress”.

    The Dragons have won two from their past three, including an impressive win over, granted, a sub-quality Storm last week – but they are a team playing without luck.

    Stats show their +28 points differential is sixth best in the NRL – yet they find themselves four points out of the top eight with the season midpoint rapidly approaching.

    Manly are close to full strength here, with Anthony Watmough warming back to form last game, while Steve Matai at centre ensures they lose nothing in attacking strike-power with Steve Bell still on the sidelines.

    Two-gamer David Williams remains in place of the injured Michael Bani; he scored a good support try off a Jamie Lyon kick last week and will be looking to put pressure on Des Hasler to retain him when Bani is deemed fit to return in a month.

    Finally, luck is shining on the Dragons regarding injuries – providing Matt Cooper, Mark Gasnier and Ben Hornby get through Origin unscathed they’ll turn up with a 20-man squad, with Rangi Chase, Michael Lett and Chase Stanley forming an extended bench.

    It’s a milestone game for Cooper – he plays his 150th NRL match and becomes only the third St George Illawarra player to do so.

    Watch out Sea Eagles:
    Both sides will look to score points off kicks, with the home side scoring 11 so far in 2008 and the Dragons one more. But lurking on the left wing for the Dragons is Jason Nightingale, who tops the NRL tryscorer’s list with 8.

    The home side will need to watch for cross-field bombs directed David Williams’ way, with Nightingale ready to pounce – Manly have defused just 50 per cent of these types of kicks and 15 of the Dragons’ 32 tries have been scored on their left side.

    Watch out Dragons: Bouncing prop Adam Cuthbertson is building a cult-like following.

    He continues to impress as an impact player and last week in a spirited 45-minute spurt cracked the Cowboys’ line twice, bagged a pair of tries, offloaded twice and made 83 metres.

    Plus he made 22 tackles. Expect something to happen when Des Hasler shrewdly injects the big guy into the fray.

    Where it will be won: The visitors’ chances of winning hinge on their confidence and whether they can find a groove early. For Manly, it’s all about stiffening their defences against the red-and-whites in particular.

    Everyone knows they can score points, but while in 2008 they’ve conceded an average of just 13.2 points a game (least of all teams in the NRL), in their past seven games against the Dragons they’ve yielded 29.7 points a game.

    They can’t afford to do that this week, against a team boasting a centre pairing of Gasnier-Cooper and with Jamie Soward jumping out of his boots having secured his future with a new two-year deal during the week.

    The History: Played 11; Dragons 8, Sea Eagles 3. The Dragons have won six of the past seven encounters, but the Sea Eagles won 28-24 at Brookvale Oval in their last meeting last year. The Dragons hold a 3-2 win record at Brookvale Oval.

    Conclusion: History show this game will throw up plenty of points. Both sides like to play upbeat, expansive footy and it could be a tit-for-tat scoring affair.

    While the Dragons have every reason to feel confident on their bus ride north, Manly are too good to dismiss at home. Look for a great battle up front between former Dragon Brent Kite and the resurgent Dragon Jason Ryles.

    Ryles remains miffed at his critics and continues to put in splendidly each week, while Kite can be counted on for a tough display to further his chances of a recall for Origin II. All things considered, it’s safer to tip the home side.

    Match officials: Referee – Jason Robinson; Sideline Officials – Steve Carrall & David Abood; Video ref – Phil Cooley.

    Televised: Channel Nine – Live from 7.30pm.
  16. Berkeley_Eagle

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    Steve Matai warned: Don't target Mark Gasnier

    By Dean Ritchie | May 22, 2008

    ST GEORGE Illawarra chief executive Peter Doust last night called on tough Manly centre Steve Matai to play within the rules during tomorrow night's individual match-up with Dragons centre Mark Gasnier at Brookvale Oval.

    The last time the pair met, in a 2007 October Test match in Wellington, Kiwi Matai was sent off by British referee Steve Ganson for a sickening high shot on Gasnier, playing for the Kangaroos.

    Gasnier took nearly an hour to regain consciousness and did not play any further part in the match.

    After the game, which Australia won by a record 58-0, Kangaroos coach Ricky Stuart described the incident as a "cheap shot".

    Assuming Gasnier got through last night's State of Origin match against Queensland, he will again meet Matai in what should be a fascinating Friday night clash.

    Gasnier continues to play right centre, Matai left - ensuring the two will meet head-on.

    "We certainly recall the incident between the two players that day," Doust said.

    "We just hope this time Steve Matai plays within the rules."

    Matai yesterday claimed he played his football hard yet fair.

    "I play it tough but within the boundaries," he said.

    "I'm a lot more selective in defence than when I first came into the NRL a couple of years ago."

    The Manly star said he had forgotten the Wellington send-off and had moved on since then.

    "That is all in the past now," Matai said.

    "It's forgotten and I'm sure Gaz has forgotten it too.

    "Time has moved on and I want to look forward, not backwards."

    The Gasnier-Matai clash is one of several mouth-watering one-on-one match-ups tomorrow evening.

    In-form Dragons half-back Jamie Soward goes up against Manly's Matt Orford, Jason Ryles confronts Brent Kite while Matt Cooper and Jamie Lyon are opposed at centre.

    "It should be a great game - there are some wonderful clashes right across the field," Doust said.

    Lyon said he was anticipating a torrid match-up with Cooper, provided the St George Illawarra star came through last night's Origin game uninjured.

    "I'm really looking forward to playing against Matt," Lyon said. "He is a great player.

    "Every game is important at the moment. It could be the difference between getting a top-four spot or missing out."

    Lyon has shifted back to centre from five-eighth to cover for the injured Steve Bell.

    Veteran Steve Menzies is expected to again fill-in at five-eighth.

    The Dragons beat a depleted Melbourne last weekend but will face a hot Manly side at full strength and playing before a hostile home crowd.
  17. SilentBob

    SilentBob Well-Known Member

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    Strong tackle that went wrong, unfortunate for Matai, quit whinging Steelers.
  18. Berkeley_Eagle

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    Manly the benchmark for NRL Dragons
    May 22, 2008 - 6:11PM

    Having humbled premiers Melbourne last weekend, St George Illawarra know a win at 'Fortress Brookvale' on Friday night will prove their battering of the Storm was more than just a false dawn.

    The Dragons' NRL clash with Manly has taken on 'season-defining' proportions for the red and whites as they look to do the double on last year's grand final combatants in consecutive weeks.

    Little was made of St George Illawarra's resounding 36-12 win over Melbourne on Saturday night given the undermanned Storm were without nine of their best players and coach Craig Bellamy due to Origin commitments.

    But a win over a full strength Sea Eagles side riding high in second spot on the ladder is more likely to make other sides in the competition raise a glance in the Dragons' direction.

    "Melbourne weren't at full strength last week, we know that," Dragons backrower Ben Creagh said.

    "They weren't easy, but they didn't have the Cameron Smiths or all their other good players, so it's going to be a tougher game this week and we know that."

    The Dragons' three wins this season have come against sides currently in the top four - Gold Coast, the Sydney Roosters and Melbourne - with the second placed Sea Eagles the last piece in the puzzle.

    Three of their five losses are against teams running tenth or worse, including the 14th placed Bulldogs and second last North Queensland.

    "We lost to Cronulla by one point, we lost to Parramatta by one point - you win those two games everyone's saying how great you're going ... you need to win close games," coach Nathan Brown said.

    "We had a period there where we lost four games by a total of 13 points - those games were there for us to win.

    "Now we go to Brookvale and play Manly who are obviously going really well and are pretty much full strength, it's going to be a good test.

    "We showed against the Roosters and Gold Coast ... when we do put our right foot forward and we get the basics going pretty well that we can do well."

    Of course much of the Dragons' hopes of causing an upset rest on NSW trio Mark Gasnier, Matt Cooper and Ben Hornby all backing up, with only Cooper in doubt after aggravating a back injury which sidelined him earlier in the season.

    Chase Stanley will come into the centres if Cooper is ruled out.

    Manly have put together the quietest four-match winning streak imaginable to move into the top two, and with Brett Stewart the only Origin representative in the side, they are sure to be ready to go against the Dragons.

    While changes to the NSW side for game two are unlikely, Manly duo Brent Kite and Jamie Lyon will no doubt be keen to remind selectors they're still in the mix for the return bout with a big game against high profile opposites Jason Ryles and Gasnier respectively.

    © 2008 AAP

  19. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    According to SMH Late Mail Cooper is in doubt with a back injury he aggravated in Origin. Chase Stanley on standby. Gaz, Hornby and Stewey all pulled up fine and will play.
  20. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

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    Re: Manly V Dragons -Teams,News & Game Day chat

    For those who missed it, Manly have just beaten Auckland in a fast-finishing encounter.

    Michael Crockett scored in the corner in the final seconds but the Sea Eagles escaped, largely due to Jeff Robson's field goal four minutes from time.

    The final score: 37-34 (Manly six tries, six goals, one field goal; Auckland six tries, five goals)

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