Manly, the new innovators

I thought Orford was "average" if we are going to be generous in our assesments. He was not alone in that though.
 
He wasnt alone but someone on here once said that the captain and chief playmaker has to shoulder most of the responsibility.

Cant remember who though.......
 
True, silly me to think you would apply the same rules to your messiah but i guess for now we are still 2nd, but just remember under your messiah we are 8 and 4 and dropping
 

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