Last link to powerful Manly era could vanish

[Brocky]

Have faith @Brocky , 2017-18-19 could be the start of the next big era.

Think positive buddy!!

The glass is half full not half empty.

I am a realist - once the foundation is gone what do u think will hold the club up. Please do not say jake and turbo, Barrett does not come over as a leader, even as a player LOSER. Never won anything, sorry that is the truth. Unless Lyons comeback on staff to steady the ship we are in trouble. What is our winning percentage like when he does not play? woeful. DCE never kicked on after penn gave him the keys to the cash register, we buy Myles who couldn't run out of site in a dark nite, walker is a liability, bozo gave him a blues jersey in exchange. The defense has got worst we saw that last week against the storm, missed tackles not catching the bombs. The fortress reduced to a RUBBLE Maybe you can see a silver lining but I can't. BARETT had more than a year to prepare for this, he knew back in March last year that toovey was getting shafted, so at Manly we now accept mediocracy is ok. I hope that we can turn things around but to much water has gone under the bridge. The team is no longer a resemblance of who they once were.

 

[Captain Moondog]

Matai’s career hangs by a thread
By Tony Adams
August 27, 2016


A TINY titanium plate will determine whether tough Manly centre Steve Matai is able to play football again.

In the same week that the Sea Eagles are farewelling star centre Jamie Lyon in their last home game for 2016, RLW can reveal that his partner in crime is battling to save his career.

The 32-year-old Kiwi is among the most respected players in the NRL because of his no-nonsense style and ability to play through pain, but his career’s now hanging in the balance.

Matai had surgery on a chronic neck injury two months ago and is praying a titanium plate inserted into his spinal cord will give his body the strength to play again.

“It was very delicate surgery and the doctors took part of the disc out of his neck and put the plate in there,” says his manager, Gavin Orr.

“Now it’s just a waiting game and he’ll be guided by the specialists.

“You obviously don’t mess around with your neck and spine and he has a long life ahead of him.

“He played with the injury for a long time and the doctors told him he was in danger of crushing his nerves and causing permanent damage.

“He was scared of the surgery but I got him to have a chat to [Manly team-mate] Brenton Lawrence, who had similar surgery on his lower back and has come back from it very well.

“It took him 12 months but he returned very strongly from a career-threatening injury.

“After that, Steve decided to go ahead and go under the knife.

“He can’t do any contact work for six months so it will be a long, anxious wait but Steve’s as tough as they come and if there’s any way he can return, he will.”

http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/matais-career-hangs-thread/

He's been an inspirational player and a great club man but I hope he considers his long term future and retires.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I am a realist - once the foundation is gone what do u think will hold the club up. Please do not say jake and turbo, Barrett does not come over as a leader, even as a player LOSER. Never won anything, sorry that is the truth. Unless Lyons comeback on staff to steady the ship we are in trouble. What is our winning percentage like when he does not play? woeful. DCE never kicked on after penn gave him the keys to the cash register, we buy Myles who couldn't run out of site in a dark nite, walker is a liability, bozo gave him a blues jersey in exchange. The defense has got worst we saw that last week against the storm, missed tackles not catching the bombs. The fortress reduced to a RUBBLE Maybe you can see a silver lining but I can't. BARETT had more than a year to prepare for this, he knew back in March last year that toovey was getting shafted, so at Manly we now accept mediocracy is ok. I hope that we can turn things around but to much water has gone under the bridge. The team is no longer a resemblance of who they once were.

That's the glass almost fully empty opinion.

I'm looking at it as a transition period before the next decade of dominance.

Been a tough two years, will be slightly better in 2017, but watch us power on in 2018-2020.

 

[Brocky]

That's the glass almost fully empty opinion.

I'm looking at it as a transition period before the next decade of dominance.

Been a tough two years, will be slightly better in 2017, but watch us power on in 2018-2020.

Are u planning on a change in ownership?

 

[Fluffy]

When Smith & Cronk finally leave the storm will they write the same article but with the link that finally the storm have no cheats in their team?

Everything they do until these 2 are gone is tainted and on the back of their cheating ways

 

[Fluffy]

I am a realist - once the foundation is gone what do u think will hold the club up. Please do not say jake and turbo, Barrett does not come over as a leader, even as a player LOSER. Never won anything, sorry that is the truth. Unless Lyons comeback on staff to steady the ship we are in trouble. What is our winning percentage like when he does not play? woeful. DCE never kicked on after penn gave him the keys to the cash register, we buy Myles who couldn't run out of site in a dark nite, walker is a liability, bozo gave him a blues jersey in exchange. The defense has got worst we saw that last week against the storm, missed tackles not catching the bombs. The fortress reduced to a RUBBLE Maybe you can see a silver lining but I can't. BARETT had more than a year to prepare for this, he knew back in March last year that toovey was getting shafted, so at Manly we now accept mediocracy is ok. I hope that we can turn things around but to much water has gone under the bridge. The team is no longer a resemblance of who they once were.

I don't know the actual winning percentage since Lyons left us but we won a premiership in 2008 & 2011 and made the GF in 2007 & 2013 so I think we have moved on from Cliffy fairly successfully.

 

[Brocky]

I don't know the actual winning percentage since Lyons left us but we won a premiership in 2008 & 2011 and made the GF in 2007 & 2013 so I think we have moved on from Cliffy fairly successfully.

What makes you think it was Cliffy that won us the the titles, different times and scenarios. Why are you going back in time, I am saying with this current playing squad and coaches and what effect Lyons had on a game, we are about to find out very quickly we can not COMPETE with out him, until the next messiah is born, and not one in this team is capable of filling this position

 

[Woodsie]

What makes you think it was Cliffy that won us the the titles, different times and scenarios. Why are you going back in time, I am saying with this current playing squad and coaches and what effect Lyons had on a game, we are about to find out very quickly we can not COMPETE with out him, until the next messiah is born, and not one in this team is capable of filling this position

How much do messiahs cost ... we'll just buy another one like we bought Lyon and (Lyons)

 

[Brocky]

How much do messiahs cost ... we'll just buy another one like we bought Lyon and (Lyons)

I was nearly going to say that in my post, we need a real leader like Kennedy, unfortunately there is no one around at the moment to purchase and if so we spent all our money on the wrong horse IN THE RACE DCE. That was just reactive management at its best, just like replacing toovey after a bad start to last season, but they played their way back. Cannot say it happened to this year, Barettdoes not carry that aurora about him, something that is critical when coaching. Couldn't play couldn't coach,

 

[Enigma]

What makes you think it was Cliffy that won us the the titles, different times and scenarios. Why are you going back in time, I am saying with this current playing squad and coaches and what effect Lyons had on a game, we are about to find out very quickly we can not COMPETE with out him, until the next messiah is born, and not one in this team is capable of filling this position

All will be revealed against the Raiders? But what makes you so sure we can't compete without him? Bozo left in 77 and we won in 78 . Inglis is the best centre of this era yet he left Storm. You will have trouble proving that one player leaving is the end of life as we know it

 

[Haliaeetus]

imagine carrying around an aurora
that would be hectic
if blue steel doesn't work, you can always bring out the northern lights

 

[Enigma]

I was nearly going to say that in my post, we need a real leader like Kennedy, unfortunately there is no one around at the moment to purchase and if so we spent all our money on the wrong horse IN THE RACE DCE. That was just reactive management at its best, just like replacing toovey after a bad start to last season, but they played their way back. Cannot say it happened to this year, Barettdoes not carry that aurora about him, something that is critical when coaching. Couldn't play couldn't coach,

Good news for some, Barrett is gone already

 

[Brocky]

All will be revealed against the Raiders? But what makes you so sure we can't compete without him? Bozo left in 77 and we won in 78 . Inglis is the best centre of this era yet he left Storm. You will have trouble proving that one player leaving is the end of life as we know it

True but the storm still had the best fullback, hooker and half in the world

 

[mickqld]

Just watch the U20. There's our link to a new era.

 

[Enigma]

True but the storm still had the best fullback, hooker and half in the world

True as well but I expect our spine to be good enough in the next 2 years to compete. A friend of mine asked Crusher what he thought about Hodgkinson leaving Manly? "Nah not worried we've got someone better". Orford left Storm , so no need to fret over the present look to the future.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Let's face it boys and girls the games changed , the way clubs are structured has changed , players loyalties have changed , staffs loyalties have changed, almost no one is in the game " just for the glory", so staff, players, " buying in" to a culture or legacy is very much " old school".

Buying in to each other ,I get, look at how good the Faders are going, it's not because of the " culture", it's not because of Ricky Stuart, it's because as a group they've " bought in to each other ".

As I said the other day, it will happen again, you just have to be more patient ( a virtue many of you don't seem to be blessed with).

 

[Top End Eagle]

If both STeve and Brett leave and Lyons retiring, I can not see any positives next

if we lose Brett and Steve, and LYons retiring I cannot see anything good coming from next year, face it the rest of the players are not club builders, DCE no way, MYles DOA, BURHRER one more injury gone, jake and Tom have so much to learn, who else is there to take the club to the next level in terms of culture and environment, Barrett does not come across like someone you would go to war with. I look back through YouTube and see the Manly of old and compare it to the team now WOW. havent we really lost our way. Memories are all that we have. I have being to all the Manly games at Brookie for the last 30 plus years, you can not tell me it is the same place. You are right there is no other former Manly player who would want to coach because they know what hostile environment it is. People who have never played and come from other industries trying to reinvent the wheel. You can buy any big name player u want not going to change the current mentality there at the moment

Lyons retired a couple of times last century. Arks some supporters who know somethink about the club, we're happy to help yous guys out that don't know so much stuff.