Lachlan Croker
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Walker was very effective for us coming on with speed through the middle and even some ball movement. I don't know who will fill that role - possibly Weekes but it might be a lot to ask of him at this stage. Then again, the new coach(es) might have a completely different approach. Even so, I can't see them dumping Croker from hooker (at least initially). For all the reasons noted by others, I think they would rather change his role up a bit and see if there's more to his game than we've seen to date. Croker for hooker, Croaker for coach!
R3
Bird gang affiliate
I'm looking forward to seeing how the new coaching trio utilise Croker.
He has attacking skills from playing fullback and 5/8 as a junior kangaroo, as well as initially a playmaker in 1st grade. He's had a few years now avoiding injuries and adjusting to the hooker role. Safe to say he's a more than established 1st grade hooker, but let's see if he's allowed to combine all those elements together.
Good luck to Roache and Croker both staying injury free, both could add more spark if we're lucky...
He has attacking skills from playing fullback and 5/8 as a junior kangaroo, as well as initially a playmaker in 1st grade. He's had a few years now avoiding injuries and adjusting to the hooker role. Safe to say he's a more than established 1st grade hooker, but let's see if he's allowed to combine all those elements together.
Good luck to Roache and Croker both staying injury free, both could add more spark if we're lucky...
manly al
First Grader
Definitely going to miss Walker [ and naturally Foz ] with their attack anyway and not sure how that part of the ledger is going to be addressed . Hopefully Schuster aiming up big time as the i st step . Don"t think that Weekes despite his obvious talent has the robust type of build and play such as Walker to play as a 13 , probably always destined to play in the backs . Recall Paul Shaw back in the day was used well for a brief time as a loose running lock or whatever but different type of footy these days . The new coaching grouping is definitely going to have to come to terms fairly promptly on the most effective 6 and 13 roles to utilize to get the side really on track .
No overly familiar with Roache's game, but him in the 14, Lawton in the 13 and Jake to prop would be good.
We're going to miss Walker's explosive energy off the bench. He just changed the game when he came on.
Well, that should make you happy ... especially after you posted this gem below ... great to hear from such a solid fan.
I would actually like to see Croker at 13 (McInnes style), with a Bullemor type on the bench sharing this role throughout the game.
For 9, I would start with either Lawton or Roache if possible, and bring on GCKT from 14 to play increasingly more minutes as the season progresses.
Obviously that means Jake to prop, and I would start him with Paseka (with Aloiai and Keppie as the last 2 bench spots).
For 9, I would start with either Lawton or Roache if possible, and bring on GCKT from 14 to play increasingly more minutes as the season progresses.
Obviously that means Jake to prop, and I would start him with Paseka (with Aloiai and Keppie as the last 2 bench spots).
The fact Croker was our player of the year yet he's only now been given an extension - and just for one extra year - suggests we aren't thinking he's the long term solution.
Not to say Croker won't continue, but whoever is calling the shots right now definitely wants to upgrade our dummy half stocks.
Not to say Croker won't continue, but whoever is calling the shots right now definitely wants to upgrade our dummy half stocks.
Yep, it seems that way, doesn't it.
Damien2812
Bencher
Not sure who's available but still playing Croker at hooker is not the way forward. The team will continue to struggle against the top teams with him at 9.
I was watching a couple of old game highlights last night (those we won - good for the endorphin kick) and Paseka looked fantastic in those games. When he's running hard and with confidence, he can be anything. Geeez, I hope he can step up his consistency (injury free will help) next year. This pack has a lot of upside if it can work to it's full potential. Having said that, 1 more grunt prop would be good.
Damien2812
Bencher
I'm not happy about the direction Penn has taken this club yet again especially with spoonbold being coach. I guess Penn didn't learn last time that outsiders will not win us that premiership and will most probably sink the club even further.
So your considered response is to publicly throw your pacifier out of the cot ... and hope we lose games .. seriously!!
I get that you’re pissed that Des was sacked , ok.
I get that you don’t like the Penn family , ok.
I get that in the old days you had to stick to “ Manly men with Manly DNA” to win , ok.
But riddle me this!!
Were you completely satisfied with the way our previous coach was handling things like , selections , game plans , bringing youngsters through ??
If you were then you don’t have to answer the next question , which is.
Don’t you think it’s time for a new approach , a new coaching set up , a new rehab set up and some more modern ways of thinking to bring our club out of the 90’s and into the current era???
Death riding the new coaches , death riding the players and death riding the organisation as a whole isn’t where thinking fans should be going.
Thinking fans would at least give the new set up a chance.
I know I will!!
Confirmed:
www.seaeagles.com.au
Sea Eagles extend Lachlan Croker to 2024
Manly Warringah Sea Eagles have extended the contract of 2022 Player of the Year in hooker Lachlan Croker.
www.seaeagles.com.au
OR ... froggy only wanted a one year extension on the money offered ... because he is backing himself to be worth a lot more after a couple more years of learning his trade ....
Yea that’s another way of looking at it.
croker is close to my favourite player. gutsy, loves playing footy and is in everything .almost first player picked, captain candidate in the future IMO but not a real good 9. he fulfils the basics but his inability to really engage the defence on a regular basis before service is costly
my perspective is that with frog at 9 that leaves manly with 2 spine positions suffering from major role deficiencies, as opposed to footy ability and skills. in recent seasons the spine has struggled to straighten and focus our attack with tom being the notable exception.
trying to patch these roles has had our team unbalanced and in all sorts and affects jakes game and opportunity to play up front
The lack of real threat in and around the ruck areas allows the defence to read and adjust quite easily
again unless we have tommy, but we need to be turning the ball inside or outside to tom not waiting for him to bust the line and turn it back
my perspective is that with frog at 9 that leaves manly with 2 spine positions suffering from major role deficiencies, as opposed to footy ability and skills. in recent seasons the spine has struggled to straighten and focus our attack with tom being the notable exception.
trying to patch these roles has had our team unbalanced and in all sorts and affects jakes game and opportunity to play up front
The lack of real threat in and around the ruck areas allows the defence to read and adjust quite easily
again unless we have tommy, but we need to be turning the ball inside or outside to tom not waiting for him to bust the line and turn it back
There’s two major shortfalls we have.
1) an agressive prop that takes no prisoners and can do it game after game.
2) an elusive 9, all the top sides have them, we don’t.
But Froggy has come a long long way already so who knows , maybe he’ll be the Dally M player of the year in 2023.
Yep. He still may surprise but at this stage he'd only be a back-up as half or 5/8 at any decent club and he's pretty much that as a hooker too. The fact he was our best player last year says as much about the others as it says about him!
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6 | 5 | 1 | 59 | 12 |
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6 | 5 | 1 | 20 | 12 |
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6 | 4 | 2 | 53 | 10 |
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6 | 4 | 2 | 30 | 10 |
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7 | 4 | 2 | 25 | 9 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | 40 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | 24 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | -8 | 8 |
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7 | 4 | 3 | -18 | 8 |
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7 | 3 | 3 | 20 | 7 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | 31 | 6 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 6 |
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6 | 2 | 4 | -31 | 6 |
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7 | 3 | 4 | -41 | 6 |
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7 | 2 | 5 | -29 | 4 |
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6 | 1 | 5 | -102 | 4 |
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6 | 0 | 6 | -90 | 2 |
