June 30 Deadline

[eaglebuzz]

Hopefully we can jump on a fringe prop from the Warriors or Roosters or something before June 30. We've lost two starting front rowers so surely someone wants the chance to fast track their run into a regular FG spot.

 

[XV-1]

Those two clubs as examples reinforces the need for $$$$ and a club willing to play the long game with a coach.

Storm and Bulldogs since Landy involved at dogs both are cashed up clubs.

Yes invested in a young coach with a long game plan. But $$$$$ spent on getting junior stars to the club and staffing far exceeding Manly.

At Manly Ciraldo would get the sack when the coach was trying to change a loser culture with a wrestling session that resulted in some players including their Captain at the time, throwing toys out of the cot.

Manly and Seibold might actually be in a very similar places right now. Captain DCE has absolutely thrown his toys out, and the culture of this group with Captain DCE has been crap, it needs change.

Manly won't back Seibold like Dogs backed Ciraldo at this same point. Club is too emotionally inclined to Sackings. But in any event Manly $$$$ just won't get recent premiership winning rep players like Button, Crichton, Kikau and Tuipinoua in during a re-build. Won't have the $$$$$ buying plenty of outstanding juniors to grow into the team. Dogs are stacked below right now and Storm have been for a decade.

No point us arguing over if Seibold is the right coach or a smart coach at the moment......

We need Manly successful, and moving forward, be that with or without Seibs as the Coach, it will need $$$$$ invested to get this club back being a premiership power house.

And who ever the coach, will need a club willing to give him time, let him piss of players who don't buy into his culture changing ways.

Just may be the problem at Manly is Manly. If $$$$ and time is what any smart coach needs. Is Manly the club where you can grow?

Why do you say Manly won't back Seibold like the dogs have backed Ciraldo?

Both have been first grade coaches at the clubs for a 3rd year.
Ciraldo has got rid of all the old slow players and transformed the Dogs with keep it simple defence, playing for each other and build from that.

Seibold has been gifted a top 4 team, sells off our best young players for moneyball old age slow rejects, or fellow Moses clients.
I have no idea what Manly stands for with Seibold as we cannot do the basics, but every 4th game we use our " weapons"

Can anyone seriously say we are overall a better more cohesive team after 3 years of Seibold - who as a first grade coach has twice the experience of Ciraldo.

Have you seen the number of staff Seibold has working for him - a small army.

Yea, Manly has not supported Seibold 🤔🥴 yes they have.

 

[ManlyTragic]

New coach
New approach
It rhymes
It is a sign of the times
Lets Do It
Nothing more to see with Seibold
We have seen enough

No point getting rid of a coach unless you have someone better to replace him with.

 

[Eagle 1]

We have not been able to recruit better players than we lose
We have sacked Scott Fulton who had recruited most of all those young players in our team and others that are playing against us
Who do we sack Now . Who is responsible for our Dads army Manly retirement recruitment .

Last but not least . The 4 year Brooks Bargain buy of the century Turned out to be We got t we paid for . We paid for a player that did not deliver at the Tigers and was released when they started a serious rebuilding new era and we got Nothing New from the same old Brooks .

l know you're a bit of a Fulton disciple Bozo, he made some good acquisitions over his tenure, but the Fainu's, not to sure. It's not as if they are kicking the door down, they've been with the Tigpies for a spoon last year and 5 straight losses including a spanking 64 - 0 from Melb this season. And the other one is breaking rocks in the can for who knows how long.

 

[Eagle 1]

Agree, we are no longer a rich club, and that is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. It follows that for us to be successful, we need to focus on junior development, pathways and Manly DNA. If we can’t attract talent, we need to develop our own and try to motivate them to stay based on club culture. Otherwise, it’s just death by a thousand cuts. We need to abandon the “premiership window” nonsense and get behind a coach with a development mindset and approach, preferably with a Manly background.

Better to poach jnrs from other clubs, rather than develop them, it's easy and less stressful.

 

[Eagle 1]

Hopefully we can jump on a fringe prop from the Warriors or Roosters or something before June 30. We've lost two starting front rowers so surely someone wants the chance to fast track their run into a regular FG spot.

The Warriors have plenty of spares, haven't we got a recruitment guy in NZ looking for the next big signing.

 

[Eagle 1]

We have not been able to recruit better players than we lose
We have sacked Scott Fulton who had recruited most of all those young players in our team and others that are playing against us
Who do we sack Now . Who is responsible for our Dads army Manly retirement recruitment .

Last but not least . The 4 year Brooks Bargain buy of the century Turned out to be We got t we paid for . We paid for a player that did not deliver at the Tigers and was released when they started a serious rebuilding new era and we got Nothing New from the same old Brooks .

We knew what we were buying, he's a runner of the ball and not a playmaker. At least we didn't pay overs for him.

 

[BOZO]

We knew what we were buying, he's a runner of the ball and not a playmaker. At least we didn't pay overs for him.

Sorry feathered friend but that is not the case .
We thought we were buying a bargain buy with potential that was not full filled in his last decade at the Tigers and Boy where we wrong .

 

[BOZO]

l know you're a bit of a Fulton disciple Bozo, he made some good acquisitions over his tenure, but the Fainu's, not to sure.

Time always reveals all things that we are not sure of
The Tigers may not be winning under Benji but they have invested in winners with the Fainus

 

[mave]

Time always reveals all things that we are not sure of
The Tigers may not be winning under Benji but they have invested in winners with the Fainus

True, the Fainus are winners.....of the spoon.

 

[BOZO]

No point getting rid of a coach unless you have someone better to replace him with.

The No point Perspective ....
No point getting rid of Manlys decade of premiership winning decline
Unless we have people at Manly that are capable of finding a better mentor to Inspire us there
So we just stay in our No point comfort zone and remain in Mediocrity

 

[BOZO]

True, the Fainus are winners.....of the spoon.

True and They were Underwhelmed by the the mediocre mentor that lead them there .
Just like our current coach that lead quality players in the Broncos team listed below to the clubs first ever Wooden spoon in 2020
The Buck does stop at the coach

Jesse Arthars	2020 2021
Jack Bird	2020 PO
Darius Boyd	2020 MO
Patrick Carrigan	2020 2021 2022
Xavier Coates	2020 2021
Brodie Croft	2020 2021 2022
Thomas Dearden	2020 2021
Herbie Farnworth	2020
David Fifita	2020
Thomas Flegler	2020 2021
Alex Glenn	2020 2021
Payne Haas	2020 2021 2022 2023 2024
Jamil Hopoate	2020
Jamayne Isaako	2020 2021 2022
Jordan Kahu	2020
Richie Kennar	2020
Rhys Kennedy	2020
Matthew Lodge	2020 2021 2022 PO PO
Andrew McCullough	2020 PO
Anthony Milford	2020 PO
Corey Oates	2020 PO PO
Joe Ofahengaue	2020 2021 2022
Sean O'Sullivan	2020
Cory Paix	2020 2021 2022
Keenan Palasia	2020 2021
Tevita Pangai jnr	2020 2021 2022
Izaia Perese	2020
Kotoni Staggs	2020 2021
Jake Turpin	2020 PO PO
Ilikena Vudogo	2020

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[Eagle 1]

Sorry feathered friend but that is not the case .
We thought we were buying a bargain buy with potential that was not full filled in his last decade at the Tigers and Boy where we wrong .

Yep, and all of that too.

 

[1972]

Agree, we are no longer a rich club, and that is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. It follows that for us to be successful, we need to focus on junior development, pathways and Manly DNA. If we can’t attract talent, we need to develop our own and try to motivate them to stay based on club culture. Otherwise, it’s just death by a thousand cuts. We need to abandon the “premiership window” nonsense and get behind a coach with a development mindset and approach, preferably with a Manly background.

Unfortunately there is no premiership window in the brick wall Manly have hit. Only eight faded vignettes of past glory. Unless there is change at the top of the club and the NRL stops doing whatever it can to cut Manly down, I fear it’s all over. Get rid of the captain too - now; he’s got rid of Manly.

 

[manlyfan76]

Will Penn spend the cSh?

No, no he won't.

 

[nightster]

l know you're a bit of a Fulton disciple Bozo, he made some good acquisitions over his tenure, but the Fainu's, not to sure. It's not as if they are kicking the door down, they've been with the Tigpies for a spoon last year and 5 straight losses including a spanking 64 - 0 from Melb this season. And the other one is breaking rocks in the can for who knows how long.

And the Schu 🫣

 

[Brookie1973]

Better to poach jnrs from other clubs, rather than develop them, it's easy and less stressful.

Ahh, the raiders way. Good thinking.