Jacob Liddle

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Stewbojevic

Reserve Grader
I was quite surprised when the Dragons signed Damien Cook. Jacob Liddle had his best season yet and started playing 80 minutes every week.

Most weeks he was the best on ground for the Dragons.

Seems crazy and unfair that he’ll end up being a bench hooker now.

It’s highly unlikely given our commitment to Croker, Gordie, and Simpkin but I rate Liddle better than all of them.

Would love to see him at Manly.
 

bob dylan

First Grader
Premium Member
Tipping Member
He has always shown lots of ability but 2024 was his best by far.

I wonder if the Dragons are sorry they signed Cook.

We should have grabbed Cook the instant he was unwanted at the Bunnies. He could have made us a premiership threat.
 

manly al

First Grader
Probably very similar playing styles and ability when comparing Liddle and Simpkin though could be very helpful for Simpkin to try and get just a bit of harder edge to his game , especially defensively
Gordie can certainly show some good touches with some occasional determined ruck running and defensively but overall , a bit like Froggy with that limitation to get the running forwards on the front foot to best effect .
Really [ and obviously ] need that benefit of more creativity from a 9 , Simpkin may [ or hopefully ] be able to provide it but will need that additional bit of improvement to make it happen
 

eaglebuzz

First Grader
Probably very similar playing styles and ability when comparing Liddle and Simpkin though could be very helpful for Simpkin to try and get just a bit of harder edge to his game , especially defensively
Gordie can certainly show some good touches with some occasional determined ruck running and defensively but overall , a bit like Froggy with that limitation to get the running forwards on the front foot to best effect .
Really [ and obviously ] need that benefit of more creativity from a 9 , Simpkin may [ or hopefully ] be able to provide it but will need that additional bit of improvement to make it happen
Yes I'm really hoping that Simpkin has the preseason of his life and forces Siebold to acknowledge that Croker is not an 80 minute hooker.

I wouldn't mind seeing an arrangement where for the first 20 mins we have:

9. Croker
13. Jake

And then after 20 mins rotate to:

9. Simpkin
13. Croker
Jake to bench to join the prop rotation.
 

manly al

First Grader
Yes I'm really hoping that Simpkin has the preseason of his life and forces Siebold to acknowledge that Croker is not an 80 minute hooker.

I wouldn't mind seeing an arrangement where for the first 20 mins we have:

9. Croker
13. Jake

And then after 20 mins rotate to:

9. Simpkin
13. Croker
Jake to bench to join the prop rotation.
Sure that Froggy would try to tackle his backside off if he had a stint at 13 but really do not think that he would offer anything really worthwhile in attack .
Obviously was bought to the club as a 6 but seemed to have some limitations there also and don't think that things would improve that much as a 13 .
Commendable effort with his work ethic and tidying up role since being moved to 9 but guess that some roles can only be manufactured to a point .
Losing Lawman has put the balance out a bit with covering 9 , maybe Simpkin can go the full 80 ongoing .
Going to have to sort it out somehow with the 9 role , how to use Jake for maximum value and any subsequent 13 rotation if that is the way it still may go .
But reckon that Jake 's time as a 13 may have already run its course
 

LeonardCohen

Bencher
He has always shown lots of ability but 2024 was his best by far.

I wonder if the Dragons are sorry they signed Cook.

We should have grabbed Cook the instant he was unwanted at the Bunnies. He could have made us a premiership threat.
Have you watched Cook play the last two years? He’s anything but a piece of a premiership winning puzzle.
 

LeonardCohen

Bencher
Liddle was outstanding for St Merge. He is a bit like Reece Robson in that running and defence are his primary skills. He does not have the best service, nor does he possess any guile with the ball. Not the complete package by any means but certainly better than Croker and certainly a player that has improved out of sight.
 

CRPSI eagle

Reserve Grader
Yes I'm really hoping that Simpkin has the preseason of his life and forces Siebold to acknowledge that Croker is not an 80 minute hooker.

I wouldn't mind seeing an arrangement where for the first 20 mins we have:

9. Croker
13. Jake

And then after 20 mins rotate to:

9. Simpkin
13. Croker
Jake to bench to join the prop rotation.
In my opinion Croker if way past his best and only hurting the team by having him in the 17, time we move on.
 

Disco

First Grader
Premium Member
I've always like Liddle, was spouting that we should pick him up before he went to the Dragons.

No world beater but would be our best 9 IMO
 
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double hoops

First Grader
Simpkins looked pretty good when he got to play.

I think Seibold just had a view on how to win finals game that has no place for a hooker on the bench, and Frog was viewed as the best defender.

I will not be surprised if Froggy plays more positions than hooker in 25.

It's Simpkins and Jackie's time to demand the 9 jumper.
 
Garrick couldn't defend at centre against PNG, Croker needs to go to England. These are facts. Sorry if they hurt your feelings. Simpkin and GCKT are not yet exceptional but having two youngsters pushing each other might bring something out of them if they know the path in front is there for them.

There's a nucleus of a great team there, Des was just waiting for Manasi after 2020, but it didn't happen.

If he'd have been playing 21 onwards there would have been a gf appearance or two at least in the past few years.
 

Hibyemama

Reserve Grader
Cook is cooked.
he isnt the same player that played against penrith in the grandfinal in 2021. he has lost all that speed.
 

Brocky

Reserve Grader
Yes I'm really hoping that Simpkin has the preseason of his life and forces Siebold to acknowledge that Croker is not an 80 minute hooker.

I wouldn't mind seeing an arrangement where for the first 20 mins we have:

9. Croker
13. Jake

And then after 20 mins rotate to:

9. Simpkin
13. Croker
Jake to bench to join the prop rotation.
Unfortunately Jake does not offer anything
 
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