Just branching off from the 'existence of God' topic.... I often think about how much good religion actually does- having had it shoved down my throat for most of my childhood all it seems to do is cause alot of problems. My mum is a strict Catholic,I was made go to mass all through schooling, I attended a private boarding school for 6 years and had more of it shoved down my throat. It makes me sick when I see 'brothers' and 'priests', driving around in the latest vehicles (which were updated each financial year) smoking all they want, drinking all they want, going to jail for touching up kids, belting the **** out of students, having sex (which they swore off when they took the job) and generally living a pretty good life. Then we move onto the Vatican....jesus christ indeed- when you look at all those poor starving people that the good catholics pray for and how well they could be fed on one rooms riches. Now its not just the Catholics- its spread accross all churches and beliefs bar one (which I will mention later). Fighting between each other, looking down at people 'not good enough' for your church, mass suicides, guilt, guilt and more guilt- hardly bodies worth devoting your life towards. Now I was brought up knowing what's right and wrong but all the fear and crap that gets installed into you when learning 'the teachings of the church' - is that really necessary ??? I recently had a corker of an arguement with my mother re. what good it did to go to church for an hour when you could be out reading a book to a blind old person for an hour- she ending up chucking her coffee at me which led me to suggest she chill out and make the move to become a Budhist..... Now I'm no do gooder but seriously, if you look at the Budhists and what rules they live by, surely more good can be achieved by having these sort of beliefs than those of any of the other religions put together. I'm not a Buddhist or anything at all for that matter- I was just thinking about it after my little discussion with my loving mother and thought it did made some sense. I'm also dirty on the Catholic religion for not answering my prayers regarding Manly as a kid- surely if God knew the pain I was going through in 95 he would've done something about it ???? Anyway now I'm throwing it to you guys- I hope I haven't offended anyone !