Is Mestrov really our Messiah?

[BOZO]

Dylan Brown getting 1.3m a season from the Knights was probably the catylist for DCE to go for the money.

Dylan Browns 1.3 million offer is the catalyst of a shortage of Quality halves
Money Value is all about supply and demand

 

[Eagle 1]

DCE wanted out long before Brown signed his contract

Sure, but, Brown getting a virtual Loto win made DCE want to go on 9 and Fox saying I want a peice of the action as well.

 

[BOZO]

Sure, but, Brown getting a virtual Loto win made DCE want to go on 9 and Fox saying I want a peice of the action as well.

Quality does not come cheep
Every Quality half will get a peice of the action
There is a old and true saying
Good quality is never cheap
and cheap quality is never good

 

[Eagle 1]

Quality does not come cheep
Every Quality half will get a peice of the action
There is a old and true saying
Good quality is never cheap
and cheap quality is never good

mmm...also, bad quality does not come cheap as well.

 

[manly al]

Mestrov opting out of his planned N R L 360 appearance last night should set the tone on how things should proceed ongoing and trying to dial down the temperature to a more sensible level
Surely that most or all of the detail or purported detail or versions and of any general interest has been disclosed or put out there now .
Just no need to rehash or slightly alter the general take on the matter which pretty much relates to the same claims or counter claims and which should have encompassed all of the again , already related topics .
just open to interpretation or general conclusions for a while now so again any more conjecture or speculation, really not serving much purpose except to keep the journalistic churn going and not very helpful to the Manly club collectively and keeping the team 's season on the right track with very minimal off field distractions

 

[BOZO]

mmm...also, bad quality does not come cheap as well.

No it does not
Because it costs you more in the end
Just like the Bad quality people running clubs that run clubs down

 

[47MVEagle]

Personally I reckon the decision was made because the relationship broke down and Chez declared “not at Manly” to allow other clubs to plan for his inclusion and get their best offers together prior to November 1…

Did that benefit Manly? No. I suspect Chez does not give af because it has become clear to him that he is not a Manly priority and he wants to see what is actually out there for him in NRL land.

The resulting fallout could have been avoided if the club had just said “that sux, respect his decision and unfortunately we have to manage a salary cap and retain our future roster”…

Instead the club want to run a bs line that he is a priority still and it appears they have chosen to drip-feed slanderous bs to the media to make it look like it is all on Chez (eg. Demands for releases, a figure of $1.1M, min 2 years)?

Not f*cking cool if that is how they choose to treat the longest serving Manly player ever - and just because he did not tell them he is leaving…

If they are not doing that and there is evidence that it actually is all Chez - put up…

So the club not offering him a contract after he specifically told them he would not be here after 2025 gives him the right to go on national TV bereft of club colours & blindside the club with his announcement? Surely his manager could have alerted other clubs to his availability without the appearance on channel 9? Other players & their managers seem to be able to do it.

The resulting fallout could have been avoided if DCE had appeared with the club & said what he said.

I don't understand his reasoning behind it, unless he's butthurt the club didn't come begging him after he said he wouldn't be here after 2025?

 

[LeonardCohen]

Personally I reckon the decision was made because the relationship broke down and Chez declared “not at Manly” to allow other clubs to plan for his inclusion and get their best offers together prior to November 1…

Did that benefit Manly? No. I suspect Chez does not give af because it has become clear to him that he is not a Manly priority and he wants to see what is actually out there for him in NRL land.

The resulting fallout could have been avoided if the club had just said “that sux, respect his decision and unfortunately we have to manage a salary cap and retain our future roster”…

Instead the club want to run a bs line that he is a priority still and it appears they have chosen to drip-feed slanderous bs to the media to make it look like it is all on Chez (eg. Demands for releases, a figure of $1.1M, min 2 years)?

Not f*cking cool if that is how they choose to treat the longest serving Manly player ever - and just because he did not tell them he is leaving…

If they are not doing that and there is evidence that it actually is all Chez - put up…

I like you Frank and I’m a DCE fan but I fail to see any evidence of the club not respecting his decision. Both parties agree that in December, DCE informed the club that he was leaving at season’s end. From that point, we didn’t hear boo from the club. It was DCE’s unofficial announcement on 100% Footy that sent the media into overdrive. Then they offered him a two year deal. Where’s all this disrespect? Daly sparked the publicity around his departure, not the club.

If you’re implying the club disrespected him with a low ball offer and/or no offer…does the respect not extend both ways? I.e. the club can’t afford me and/or want to move in a new direction, ‘that suxs’ so I’ll accept it gracefully and move on?

It seems to me there has to be more than disrespect here. Personally, i’m leaning towards a declined request for a release.

 

[Budgie]

Of course he does because he has to know what the coach and recruitment team want and relay back to them where the numbers sit.

But do you really believe he makes tactical footballing decisions that dictate whether a player is wanted by the football staff? I.e. sorry Seibs, I don’t think Daly’s what the team needs, he’s too erratic. I think a stronger game manager is needed. I’ve made my decision.

My point was that Mestrov’s opinion about Daly’s football is not part of the equation. You see all sorts of business types step into clubs as CEOs with no rugby league background or experience all the time and it’s because they don’t make the footballing decisions. I’ve heard many coaches come out publicly and state that coaches get what they want when it comes to signing players….unless of course Gus is running the show 😂

Sorry. Just adding info. Not arguing anything in that post.

 

[LeonardCohen]

Sorry. Just adding info. Not arguing anything in that post.

Yeah I know, apologies if the tone seemed accusatory but knew your intention and appreciate the info.

 

[Rocky]

The part that doesn't add to up to me is why, if they knew DCE was leaving in December, they weren't on the front foot trying to find a replacement at that time.

Or is it just Turbo to 6 and that's it?

 

[Nordburg]

The part that doesn't add to up to me is why, if they knew DCE was leaving in December, they weren't on the front foot trying to find a replacement at that time.

Or is it just Turbo to 6 and that's it?

How do you know they haven’t been?Some players,Fogarty for example,have clauses.Rumours like the linking of Fogarty to Manly, don’t come out a split second after the club have decided to make an approach.Fogarty has a clause relating to rd6,which is the time Mestrov claims they were giving DCE to make his decision public

 

[Rocky]

How do you know they haven’t been?Some players,Fogarty for example,have clauses.Rumours like the linking of Fogarty to Manly, don’t come out a split second after the club have decided to make an approach.Fogarty has a clause relating to rd6,which is the time Mestrov claims they were giving DCE to make his decision public

Pretty abrasive way to start your reply.

Anyway, thank you for the rest of it.

 

[Nordburg]

Pretty abrasive way to start your reply.

Anyway, thank you for the rest of it.

Abrasive?I was just asking a question.If I was intending to be abrasive,I’d of put exclamation points instead of a question mark at the end of the sentence!!!

 

[manly al]

The part that doesn't add to up to me is why, if they knew DCE was leaving in December, they weren't on the front foot trying to find a replacement at that time.

Or is it just Turbo to 6 and that's it?

Also not sure what to make of the suggestion that the club with mutual agreement was going to wait until round 6 or so to see how D C E was travelling and try to come to some arrangement then .
Or whether that was before D C E apparently told the club in Dec or so that he would not be at Manly in season 26 or maybe was still preferring a release at that stage also .
Anyway what "s done is done and not going to change circumstances going forward now .
Also just can not see any practical help or benefit in playing Turbo as a 6

 

[frank stokes]

I like you Frank and I’m a DCE fan but I fail to see any evidence of the club not respecting his decision. Both parties agree that in December, DCE informed the club that he was leaving at season’s end. From that point, we didn’t hear boo from the club. It was DCE’s unofficial announcement on 100% Footy that sent the media into overdrive. Then they offered him a two year deal. Where’s all this disrespect? Daly sparked the publicity around his departure, not the club.

If you’re implying the club disrespected him with a low ball offer and/or no offer…does the respect not extend both ways? I.e. the club can’t afford me and/or want to move in a new direction, ‘that suxs’ so I’ll accept it gracefully and move on?

It seems to me there has to be more than disrespect here. Personally, i’m leaning towards a declined request for a release.

Ditto…
If the club (in Chez’s mind or its actions) made it clear that they would not be offering a contract until they knew how much they had left over then why is Chez not entitled to move on and secure his future?

100% Footy not the best option but it could have finished then and there if the club did not go into damage control…

The last second contract (when he has been allowed to negotiate from Nov 1) is plain embarrassing and the allegations (seeking release, >$1M, >2 years) are petty…

The club can put all of this to bed this week with a couple of redacted emails… I am betting they do not but will happily be wrong…

Imo Chez has given Manly (a club that has been p*ss poor for a decade) more than enough and the fact he stayed for less in 2024 is being disregarded in order to push this “money-hungry” angle which covers the club’s a**… just come out and say he was not a priority…

 

[frank stokes]

I don't understand his reasoning behind it, unless he's butthurt the club didn't come begging him after he said he wouldn't be here after 2025?

I suspect that has a lot to do with it…

This seems more personal than anything else… people leave because of people…

 

[frank stokes]

The part that doesn't add to up to me is why, if they knew DCE was leaving in December, they weren't on the front foot trying to find a replacement at that time.

Or is it just Turbo to 6 and that's it?

Fogarty allowed to negotiate after R6?

 

[Nordburg]

Fogarty allowed to negotiate after R6?

This is what I found re Fogarty contract

“The Raiders no.7 is off-contract with the Raiders, however Canberra powerbrokers have until Round 6 to decide whether they activate a clause to extend his $650,000 contract into 2026. If the Raiders don't take up the club option, Fogarty will become a free agent in just over two weeks”

 

[Tragic Eagle]

DCE’s interview last week was the wrong thing for a captain of a club to do regardless of any suggested justification. Boo hoo I didn’t get the release I asked for. Common he has been the best paid player in the games for years.