Terry Zarsoff
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Agreed.To be fair that is pure speculation
Agreed.To be fair that is pure speculation
That’s of course just an allegation.Disappointing.
I think so too.That’s of course just an allegation.
I believe the ringleader is more likely to be an influential cleric in their church who has very likely pushed them in this matter.
Josh being the eldest is most likely the spokesman but perhaps there isn’t actually a ringleader.
I very VERY much doubt this all started with one player.I think so too.
I am afraid you appear to be quite right Frogz. That makes the moving on a bit more difficult. Important now imo that all the parties shut up and work it out in private. Otherwise if we end up with unofficial player delegations arguing in public with the owners....... that only ends with people being shown the door.I believe the 7 have said they have NOT changed their stance, it was Penn making statement. Penn is the ringleader. As for all the other jersey rounds, they are NRL organised so all clubs participate. This was done out of order and took the shine off what the NRL were doing with Women in League round and our own Gotch 4 Life promo.
Move on Yes, forgive the clubs stupidity, No.
It was even evident last Thursday , at a time that I thought “ we’ll maybe they’ll cut us some slack “ , sadly not to be.Tbh part of me moved on from this season after the Parra loss. I just struggle to invest in this game when each week there is adhorrent officiating where I’m left thinking “why bother”. Sadly that has impacted me more than anything else this season. In relation to this week reflect, learn from it, grow and let’s move on. I think it’s been good that this has gained lots of attention and if nothing else perhaps somewhere it’s created a dinner time conversation where individuals have felt uncomfortable but through discussion perhaps maybe more accepting and open. Perhaps that’s even happened here on our forum. Conversations around this topic can only be a good thing and I commend Ian Roberts and other leaders in the community for further educating others. As for moving on with the season we are still a chance for finals but now we need help. Unfortunately over the past couple of weeks we are not getting much. We win 4 I think we play finals (with help). Win 5 we certainly play finals. It’s up to us now to determine what we want out of this season. If only I could trust that we will get a fair shot from the refs. Just feel they ain’t done with crueling us just yet…..
I’m one of the least judgemental people on this forum.Yes - those still yapping are the judgement ones
Sadly mate that’s NRL circa 2020’sHonestly @Mark from Brisbane, the interest levels both on and off the park are at an all time low for me. I didn't watch the Dragons and watched small bits of the Chooks game (and it's never been like that for me). The community isn't what it used to be either (I'm one of the last remnants from days past to have been driven away I guess).
I'll probably watch 1 or 2 more games this year. There's no point sticking with something that doesn't give you enjoyment, hey? Even those teams that struggled in the early 2000's, the boys had character and heart (different generation I guess). Watching them bond, and do whatever it takes to make the team / field & stay on it was just enjoyable to watch.
Like @Waz13 said above, the officiating and direction of the game is deplorable, and that on top of the form of the team, attitude of the team, the exodus of players (and inability to acquire players) and this community here kinda kills any and all enjoyment. So I guess we'll see what the future holds, but if the trend continues - who know's where we'll be in a few years.
Mark I do not hate the players nor do I want them expelled immediately but I am reserving judgement till I know more / hear from them before calling for actionI’m one of the least judgemental people on this forum.
I get that everyone has an opinion, often different to mine.
Does it make me right and them wrong , no!
I find it amusing at times when I see members on here going toe to toe.
There seems to be almost no understanding that someone with a different opinion isn’t necessarily wrong , they just have a different opinion.
This argument to me has divided members on here and in fact everywhere in internet land.
You either
1) hate the players and want them expelled from the club immediately.
or
2) you are fully behind their stance.
Me , I get both sides , neither is wrong just different.
There is no light without dark, no joy without sorrow. The '07 - '14 period was made all the sweeter by the dark days that preceded it. Hope u stick solid mate, one day it'll be well worth it.Honestly @Mark from Brisbane, the interest levels both on and off the park are at an all time low for me. I didn't watch the Dragons and watched small bits of the Chooks game (and it's never been like that for me). The community isn't what it used to be either (I'm one of the last remnants from days past to have been driven away I guess).
I'll probably watch 1 or 2 more games this year. There's no point sticking with something that doesn't give you enjoyment, hey? Even those teams that struggled in the early 2000's, the boys had character and heart (different generation I guess). Watching them bond, and do whatever it takes to make the team / field & stay on it was just enjoyable to watch.
Like @Waz13 said above, the officiating and direction of the game is deplorable, and that on top of the form of the team, attitude of the team, the exodus of players (and inability to acquire players) and this community here kinda kills any and all enjoyment. So I guess we'll see what the future holds, but if the trend continues - who know's where we'll be in a few years.
Sadly mate that’s NRL circa 2020’s
I lament those days you mention but don’t think we will ever see them again.
Doesn’t mean we will never win a premiership again but loyalty means three fifths of **** all these days ( the Turbo’s aside ).
I’m not as invested as I used to be either , for example it’s been years since I’ve been down to Brookie and I used to go twice a year at least.
But that also means I don’t get as tied up in it all as some do , sort of like ( if you take this weeks debacle ) “ well that was a ****up , oh well , move on to next week “.
I used to watch probably half of the games live , now I just watch Manly but if something else is on I’ll just record it and watch if we win.
The game isn’t aimed at me any longer ,my old fashioned views don’t equate with the modern game.
But I’ll continue to be a member and support the club , until I can no longer do so.
I would surprised if they’re all Mormons.I very VERY much doubt this all started with one player.
It’s come from their religion, Mormon I believe , and they are well known for their very strict outlook on certain things.
So you can bet the church is behind this decision of theirs and they all felt obliged to agree.
As I say , the eldest is normally the spokesperson in any of these such situations but that certainly doesn’t mean they are the instigator.
Agree there Mick but feel pretty sorry for the Turbos because they're brimming with the Manly spirit. If only they could bring the others along with them.Seems like the spirit of what this club was all about died with Bozo and the 2006-2015 generation. Once Des leaves then the last remnants of a golden era from the 1970s to 2015 will have past into a new generation of what's in it for me.
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