Importance of FAST wingers

[Ryan]

Watching the good teams, makes you wonder about the speed and skill they have on the wings. I'm watching Vunivalu and Ado-Carr, then I think about our trove of wingers:

Brad Parker
Jorge Taufua
M. Wright
Akuila Uate

We are severely lacking. These positions are often game winning.

X Taking high kicks
X Defusing Bombs
X Important defensive reads
X Running around the oppos. out wide
X Long range tries

All elements we sorely lack.

This position is paramount for us. These games are convincing me that if we stick with Suli, he has a run in the forwards (not centre, or ESPECIALLY not wing). We need finishing.

Akuila has moved onto greener pastures.

Brad Parker...well, I won't make comment, and honestly, Taufua looks old, tired, unmotivated and done. He just doesn't have it. If he came onto the open market, I'm actually not sure he'd get another gig right now in Australia.

I'm now certain we need TWO fresh wingers to start. Plus a forward.

 

[sheridanstand78]

Our Achilles heel is our wingers, we dont score from bombs and we concede too many tries and repeat sets by our wingers failing to deal with bombs, I hate the fact that our wingers are so passive under the high ball. We also tend to get caught out too much when the wingers dont read overlaps and we get out flanked far too easy.

We need an express winger who is a threat when there is a lose ball, and wingers who attack the football and get us on the front foot for each set.

It has been a problem since the 2013 season and the club has not dealt with it. We need some new blood on the wing ASAP!

 

[bob dylan]

Agreed.

But we need at least 2 forwards. 1 will only replace Lane, therefore no improvement.

We need a 5/8th or half to replace Green.

We also need a coach, assistant coach and recruitment officer.

Oh yeah and chairs.

 

[madmax]

Don’t know how many times I’ve posted this but it’s time to give young Jade Anderson a go.......speed to burn & young Tevita Funa or Tom Wright would be ideal on the other side! I’m tired of seeing other clubs give their youngsters a go & then watch them turn into stars yet we seem to be sh!t scared & bring in players who have reached their use by dates!!! Because of this we will lose our players who in turn will become stars at other clubs!!!!!!! Just saying.....

 

[40 years an eagle]

Kick retrieval is really important but most of the tries scored by wingers in the NRL are from ball-movement.

We could have the fastest wingers ever to play the game but they won't score 20 tries a year if they are not passed the ball, as it has been.

 

[StuBoot]

Kick retrieval is really important but most of the tries scored by wingers in the NRL are from ball-movement.

We could have the fastest wingers ever to play the game but they won't score 20 tries a year if they are not passed the ball, as it has been.

So true, look back to the year ( 2013?) that Wolfy and Jorge both scored something like 20 tries each, it was all about finishing not necessarily speed.
How many of those were from more than 30m out?
Even Robbo wasn't an out and out speedster but knew where to be and what to do to get across the stripe, Snake and Matai did the job for him quite often.

How many of Jennings' tries from Souths this year have been just catch and put down near the corner?
Yeah he's quick but if the playmakers work the numbers then it hardly matters who's out there.

Would be an interesting stat to see which wingers have the most long range tries.

But saying all that, yes give me a fast winger preferably two.

 

[maxta]

Long tries is Rapana and Addo Carr
Roberts and Mitchell as centres
Agree with the majority of tries scored from close range and the reason is more than a shift.
It’s winning the middle first, having good depth, option runners pushing into holes to turn defenders in.
Ppl mistake the fact Manly make metres as winning the middle....more often than not the play ball is still slow, therefore allows the defence to reset. This takes away most opportunities to go wide.

 

[The better Robbo]

There was a mention of brendan Elliott id take him. Good player and plays every position in the backline. M.wright replacement that actually has speed. Him and then use T.Wright Anderson suli and Funa. Taufua needs to get fit or goodbye and parker, well.....

 

[Stevo]

Watching the good teams, makes you wonder about the speed and skill they have on the wings. I'm watching Vunivalu and Ado-Carr, then I think about our trove of wingers:

Brad Parker
Jorge Taufua
M. Wright
Akuila Uate

We are severely lacking. These positions are often game winning.

X Taking high kicks
X Defusing Bombs
X Important defensive reads
X Running around the oppos. out wide
X Long range tries

All elements we sorely lack.

This position is paramount for us. These games are convincing me that if we stick with Suli, he has a run in the forwards (not centre, or ESPECIALLY not wing). We need finishing.

Akuila has moved onto greener pastures.

Brad Parker...well, I won't make comment, and honestly, Taufua looks old, tired, unmotivated and done. He just doesn't have it. If he came onto the open market, I'm actually not sure he'd get another gig right now in Australia.

I'm now certain we need TWO fresh wingers to start. Plus a forward.

Totally agree. Been saying exactly the same thing for ages.

 

[Stevo]

Kick retrieval is really important but most of the tries scored by wingers in the NRL are from ball-movement.

We could have the fastest wingers ever to play the game but they won't score 20 tries a year if they are not passed the ball, as it has been.

You attack to your strengths. Our only strength this year was 1 backline play that involved A sweeping Tom Trebojevic and 2nd phase play through the middle. Once Api got injured, the latter was almost nullified.

 

[simon64]

Wingers are usually not paid very well and I can't work out why.

Good ones do really useful stuff.

I've heard (and this is just a rumour with no credible source) they can SCORE TRIES using something called PACE.

They can multi task by JUMPING and CATCHING at the same time when the opposition put up a bomb. I mean, this is just fairytale stuff isn't it ? Who has ever heard of such ridiculous skills ?

I even heard that if the ball is loose on the ground near their own try line, some wingers can PICK IT UP. Then, as if that wasn't amazing enough, they RUN THE LENGTH OF THE FIELD AND SCORE. The other team can't even catch them. I mean, can you believe it ?

I can't imagine any of this is true though. I just reckon the people that told me this ended up having a massive laugh at how gullible I was to believe such fanciful lies.

 

[Stevo]

I would love for us to get our hands on honest footballers that wouldn't break the bank like Nathan Ross or one of the Jennings brothers. I'm sure all 3 are off contract.

And if we aren't after Ethan Lowe then we are kidding ourselves.

 

[Genius]

Bolt from the Mariners Football Club. Hed go alright. Fast, strong and tall.

 

[Chip and Chase]

I love Horhay but his contribution this year was below average. Slow play the balls and minimal effort off the ball undo what little good he does achieve with hit ups these days. Injuries haven't been kind but he's looking cooked, but still has a year to run on his contract. Need some youth and enthusiasm on the flanks. Would have loved to snare Isaako from Broncos. Anderson may work out, he's a bit slight but so was the Fox when he started.

 

[ricardo]

Wash you mouths out. Jorge is awesome. Just coming off a bad injury takes it's time. Yes I hate the slow play the balls but he's improving this and has cut the sooky act out.

Him, Kelly and Dylan is the nucleus of an outstanding backline. If we could get an electric FAST winger on the other side we would be golden.

I wonder what Perry Baker is doing right now...

 

[mozgrame]

Troy Leo from the Burleigh bears is lightning. Good skills all round. Not sure if the titans have him locked up, but surely he'd be looking for a go in the nrl...

 

[HoldenV8]

You know you're in trouble out wide when your fullback is a better winger than the actual wingers. Tom proved that in Origin.

Our fastest winger this year was Aku, but even he has lost some pace over the years.

Wingers with poor hands are a liability. Aku, Jorge, Parker.....dropped more balls than a litter of all male puppies. Parker is OK under a bomb, but its always cringe time when an opposition half sends a kick to Jorge or Aku. And those poor hands also took away from using the bomb as an attacking weapon of our own.

Matt Wright is arguably the slowest winger in the NRL, but at least he had good hands most of the time.

What we need are wingers who are similar to Tom. Tall, fast and with good hands.

 

[HoldenV8]

Wingers are usually not paid very well and I can't work out why.

Good ones do really useful stuff.

I've heard (and this is just a rumour with no credible source) they can SCORE TRIES using something called PACE.

They can multi task by JUMPING and CATCHING at the same time when the opposition put up a bomb. I mean, this is just fairytale stuff isn't it ? Who has ever heard of such ridiculous skills ?

I even heard that if the ball is loose on the ground near their own try line, some wingers can PICK IT UP. Then, as if that wasn't amazing enough, they RUN THE LENGTH OF THE FIELD AND SCORE. The other team can't even catch them. I mean, can you believe it ?

I can't imagine any of this is true though. I just reckon the people that told me this ended up having a massive laugh at how gullible I was to believe such fanciful lies.

Bingo. The days of just putting the players out on the flanks because they are the fastest (and usually can't defend) are all but gone. Yes the wingers are still usually the fastest in a side, but these days they do a lot more than just run fast or catch the ball and fall over the line for a try.

As to why they don't get paid as much....there has long been a perception in rugby league that the forwards do the hard work, the halves, centres and fullback provide the brilliance, and the wingers are just the pretty boys who score the tries. But the game has changed. Most wingers do as much grunt work as the front rowers, sometimes more, especially on kick returns and the first 2-3 tackles of a set.

 

[Ranga]

Did any of our wingers score a try this year from out-leaping their opposite? I can only remember one try from a bomb and that was Turbo late in the year. (Surely my memory is wrong on this but I’d love wingers with some ability in the air (at both ends of the field))

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Wash you mouths out. Jorge is awesome. Just coming off a bad injury takes it's time. Yes I hate the slow play the balls but he's improving this and has cut the sooky act out.

Him, Kelly and Dylan is the nucleus of an outstanding backline. If we could get an electric FAST winger on the other side we would be golden.

I wonder what Perry Baker is doing right now...

Yes at this rate of progress, Horhay should be the complete footballer in about 10 years time.