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If we were to release players

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Disco, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. Disco

    Disco Well-Known Member

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    Let me start but saying i hope Choc, Matai, Foran and Snake are all hear next year as the are all Manly legends and i would be devastated if they left!

    But as they are contracted we should be doing deal with the clubs to have the opportuntity to speak to their players.

    For Example

    Grant Watmough the opportunity to speak to Parra if they allow us the opportunity to speak to Tepai Moeroa

    Grant Snake to opportunity to speak to Canberra if we can speak to Pappali

    Grant Matai the chance to speak to Warriors if we can speak to Matulino

    Now obviously these are crude example and would not mean the above mentioned players would want to join us, but we should not be giving these clubs a free run at our contracted players unless they provide something in return
     
  2. tookey

    tookey Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    I hope that there are all here next week but it I am more worried about them being here next year

    If the warriors offer was true than I don't understand why we didn't release Matai as the offer would have far better than anything manly could or should have offered him.

    He has been a great player for Manly but his body is struggling and won't last another 4 years.

    Ditto with choc. 2015 should be his last year with us as his body has had it and even he said recently to a friend of mine that his body is shot and he will probably be in a wheelchair by 40.

    Snake is also injury prone and should be released with our blessing.

    Three champions who will always be remembered as legends of the club

    Foran is the one who must be kept at all costs.
     
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    • susan

      susan Well-Known Member

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      The answer is as Tookey says. Keep Foran and DCE and thank Brett Choc and Stevie for their sensational service.

      BUT not at all costs- only if Foran wants to be there.Im pretty sure if Choc and Brett goes he will follow.I certainly hope not- they are a combination that simply cannot be replicated in these days where halves are so thin on the ground.Hopefully he will realize what a combination like that will do for his career in the long run.If he gets his mind back on the job he is our long term captain.
       
    • Fluffy

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      Yep, the spine is the priority. A lot of years left in 2 of them and a few options to replace Brett who is in his twilight years.

      If a player is convinced the grass is greener then there is nothing you can do. I guess it is their decision as to whehter they want glory or money right now.
       
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      • bob dylan

        bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        I think Foran wants out more than the others.

        Roosters bound, I reckon.
         
      • tookey

        tookey Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        Parra bound as well with choc I believe.
         
      • KaZa

        KaZa Well-Known Member

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        Adios amigos. I am well over it.

        It shows in their performances of late. Our defence has gone to ****. Their not playing for each other anymore. We have a few good kids and it will free up a crap load of money to sign a few goodies.
         
      • Ryan

        Ryan Well-Known Member

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        It's what Foran claims, and I've heard from around the traps.
         
      • The Indian

        The Indian Well-Known Member

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        I think it would be madness to release players during the off season because its almost impossible to find a replacement at this stage of the year off contract for 2015 - surely you need to give yourself time to replace them. Our management is not so silly as to even consider that surely.

        In this instance I am speaking mainly of Foran and to a slightly lesser extent Matai.

        They should be made to play out their contracts next year AT THE VERY LEAST and enable us to find replacements, if that happens. Obviously I hope both stay long term though.

        Watmough and Stewart - would worry me far less. Watmough's best footy is behind him. If he's the leader of the 'I want out" brigade then give him his wish. He's been a great player but he's not irreplaceable ( at this stage of his career )

        As for Brett Stewart - plays 3 or 4 good games a year, looks uninterested for long periods of most games these days. And Since 2008 its been a real Stewart brothers 'soap opera' at this club and maybe its best for all concerned if they had a fresh start.
         
      • Ryan

        Ryan Well-Known Member

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        Ideally (if Choc / Froan & Glenn / King leave):-

        01. Brett Stewart / Clinton Gutherson
        02. Jorge Taufua
        03. Steve Matai / Tony Satini
        04. Peta Hiku
        05. Cheyse Blair
        06. Jamie Lyon (won a premiership with him there) / Jack Littlejohn
        07. Daly Cherry-Evans / Masada Iosefa
        08. Brenton Lawrence / Epalahame Lauaki
        09. Matt Ballin
        10. Josh Starling / Ligi Sao
        11. Justin Horo
        12. Tom Symonds / Michael Chee Kam
        13. Jamie Buhrer / Blake Leary

        14. Jayden Hodges / Tom Trbojevic
        15. Jesse Sene-Lefao / James Hasson
        16. Dunamis Lui / Jake Trbojevic
        17. Richie Fa'aoso (full off season) / Tyson Andrews

        If you look at the salary cap going up, plus the players that have left, surely we could add to that depth with a marquee player signing or two.
         
      • susan

        susan Well-Known Member

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        Everyone knows we need Kieren Foran.Future captain.....but not the Kieran Foran who played Saturday night.We need the Foran who led us to beat the Roosters with half the team out a couple of years ago.There is a massive difference right now.
         
      • ManlyBacker

        ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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        I'll support whoever is in the jumper but we will NEED to sign a few big names if we have that lineup.
         
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        • Ryan

          Ryan Well-Known Member

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          But dude, we have Blake Leary, and haven't you heard about him?

          He's just a regular joe, With a regular job. He's your average white, Suburbanite slob. He likes football, and porno, and books about war. He's got an average house, With a nice hardwood floor. His wife, and his job, his kids, and his car, his feet on the table, With a Cuban cigar.

          But sometimes that just ain't enough, To keep a man like him interested, Oh no, no way, uh uhh. No he's gotta go out and have fun, At someone elses expense, Oh yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah,

          He drives really slow, In the ultra fast lane, while people, behind him, are going insane.

          He's an asshole
          (he's an asshole, what an asshole)
          He's an asshole
          (he's an asshole, such an asshole)

          He uses public toilets, And pisses on the seats, he walks around in the summer time, Sayin' "How about this heat?"

          He's an asshole
          (he's an asshole, what an asshole)
          He's an asshole
          (he's an asshole, such an asshole)

          Sometimes he parks in handicaped spaces, While handicaped People, make handicaped faces,

          He's an asshole
          (he's an asshole, what an asshole)
          He's an asshole
          (he's a big ****ing asshole)

          Maybe he shouldnt be singing this song, Ranting and raving and carring on,Maybe they're right when they tell him he's wrong.
          NAAAHHHHH

          He's an asshole
          (he's an asshole, what an asshole)
          He's an asshole
          (he's the worlds biggest asshole)

          You know what he's gonna do? He's gonna get himself a 1967 Cadaliac Eldarado Convertable, Hot Pink! With whale skin hub caps, An all leather cow interior, And big brown baby seal eyes for headlights. YEAH! And he's gonna drive around in that baby, At 115 miles per hour, Getting one mile per gallon, Sucking down quarter pounder cheeseburgers from McDonalds in the old-fasioned non-biodegradable styrafoam containers. And when he's done sucking down those grease ball burgers, he's gonna wipe his mouth in the Sea Eagles flag, And then he's gonna toss the styrafoam containers right out the side, And there ain't a God damn thing anybody can do about it,You know why? 'Cause we got the bombs, that's why.
          Two words, Nuclear ****ing Weapons OK. Russia, Germany, Romania,
          They can have all the democracy they want.They can have a big democracy cake, Walk right through the middle of Tienemen Square,
          And it won't make a lick of difference, Because we got the bombs OK!
          John Wayne's not dead, He's frozen. And as soon as we find a cure for cancer, we're gonna thaw out the duke. And he's gonna be pretty pissed off, You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well multiply that by 15 million times,That's how pissed off the duke's gonna be. He's gonna get the duke,And John Desimeties, And Lee Marvinhaugh And Sam Beckinforth,And a case of whiskey, And drive down to Texas, And,
          (hey, Hey, You know you really are an asshole) Why don't you shut up and sing the song pal,
          You know the whole time he thought he was that asshole, And it turns out it was us, What Asshole's

          He's an asshole
          (he's an asshole, what an asshole)
          He's an asshole
          (he's the worlds biggest asshole)

          A, SS, HO, LE
          Everybody,
          A, SS, HO, LE
           
        • nodd

          nodd Well-Known Member

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          Is that your theme song Ryan?

          Do you "ever" have anything positive to say? Throwback to your Bears day I suppose.
           
        • SeaEagleRock8

          SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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          OK OK I get it, you don't like Blake Leary.
           
        • nodd

          nodd Well-Known Member

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          I apologise Ryan.

          I jumped the gun.

          I have just read 3 very positive posts from you.

          Again apologies.
           
        • Ryan

          Ryan Well-Known Member

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          Jesus Chris you bunch are a pack of precious pricks. Lighten up ffs.
           
        • SeaEagleRock8

          SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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          Good alliteration Ryan!
          [hr]
          Pack of precious pricks might one day assume meme fame alongside YARTs :)
           
        • NYEagle

          NYEagle Well-Known Member

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          This thread is starting to depress me.

          SURELY these people can shut of their egos and win 3 games of football and make history?.
           

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