Hass goes to market

[Rafferty]

Haas and Carrigan talking about leaving town doesn’t bide well for Maguire.

If we could realistically chase one, which one?

 

[mave]

Yes, we can't release five players in order to raise the funds for one player.

Disco is saying that if release 5 minimum wage players, you need to somehow replace them with 5 other players.

You can't just run a 25 man squad.

Releasing 5 minimum wages players does not free up funds at all.

 

[Thewestisbest]

Disco is saying that if release 5 minimum wage players, you need to somehow replace them with 5 other players.

You can't just run a 25 man squad.

Releasing 5 minimum wages players does not free up funds at all.

Yes, we can't release 5 players to raise funds to sign 1 player. I agree.

 

[Rafferty]

Disco is saying that if release 5 minimum wage players, you need to somehow replace them with 5 other players.

You can't just run a 25 man squad.

Releasing 5 minimum wages players does not free up funds at all.

Yes, we can't release 5 players to raise funds to sign 1 player. I agree.

Perhaps you can if your prepared to run with some development players at the base contract of 85k, not sure around the rules there and how many of them you could have in the 30, rather have young hungry guys wanting a go than the older guys on pension top ups.

 

[Eagledare2dream]

Agreed.

Also I love when people are like, get rid of Chee Kam, Lodge, Matterson, Veaga, Waddell etc like its going to free up all this cap space.

Players on min leaving have to be replaced by players on min.

You cant run a 25 man squad so no money is being freed up.

On their footballing merits sure have that combo but not in relation to making space for Haas

Doesn't have to be all of them, 2-3 of them will pay for Haas then bring in the boys Navale etcs.

 

[Eagledare2dream]

Perhaps you can if your prepared to run with some development players at the base contract of 85k, not sure around the rules there and how many of them you could have in the 30, rather have young hungry guys wanting a go than the older guys on pension top ups.

100%

 

[Eagledare2dream]

I would say that the players, for the safety of their sanity, would avoid sites like this like the plague, otherwise it would do their heads in.

Only Post-game discussion, THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY none of the other crap we talked about. Who knows might wake them up also Sieb might be gone by now.

 

[The Who]

Yes, we can't release 5 players to raise funds to sign 1 player. I agree.

There must be a way. Easts have done it for decades, and Canterbury have recently found the Easts' blueprint.
Why are good players prepared to go to these two clubs? The answer can't be simply to win a premiership because the Dogs have been cellar dwellers for the last few seasons. Also, no player would leave Penrith if a premiership win was paramount.
It has to be that these two clubs look after players better . . .

 

[Disco]

There must be a way. Easts have done it for decades, and Canterbury have recently found the Easts' blueprint.
Why are good players prepared to go to these two clubs? The answer can't be simply to win a premiership because the Dogs have been cellar dwellers for the last few seasons. Also, no player would leave Penrith if a premiership win was paramount.
It has to be that these two clubs look after players better . . .

Oh there is definitely a way, its jyst replacing min wage earners with min wage earners.

If Tom and Jake are on the reported 1.1 and 900 then that is 2 mil between them.

If you could resigned him on 1.3 say (800k Tom and 500k Jake) then you have 700k straight away.

Brown off contract say he is on min or say 200k.

That means you could replace Brown with a 900k forward.

Obviously all speculation but I think we will have space come 27

 

[Woodsie]

Perhaps you can if your prepared to run with some development players at the base contract of 85k, not sure around the rules there and how many of them you could have in the 30, rather have young hungry guys wanting a go than the older guys on pension top ups.

100%

• Base Salary Cap: The NRL's base salary cap for 2025 is $11,400,000.
  
  
• Top 30 Salary Cap: The total salary cap for the top 30 players in 2025 is $11,800,000.
  
  
• Minimum Salary: The minimum salary for a player within the top 30 is $145,000, including superannuation.

 

[Rafferty]

• Base Salary Cap: The NRL's base salary cap for 2025 is $11,400,000.
  
  
• Top 30 Salary Cap: The total salary cap for the top 30 players in 2025 is $11,800,000.
  
  
• Minimum Salary: The minimum salary for a player within the top 30 is $145,000, including superannuation.

Cheers woodsie, still I’d like to know a) if development players can be included in the 30 and if they can b) how many of them can you have.

Savala at the chooks is a development player, his on 85k, nice work if you can find and them and even better if you can fill 2 or 3 spots in the 30 or are development players counted separately to the 30? I’m pretty sure there’s an allocation of cap for a certain number of them, just not sure if there outside the 30.

 

[Thewestisbest]

Perhaps you can if your prepared to run with some development players at the base contract of 85k, not sure around the rules there and how many of them you could have in the 30, rather have young hungry guys wanting a go than the older guys on pension top ups.

Thinking outside the box is good. But the development players must be good enough to cut it in first grade.

 

[Rafferty]

Thinking outside the box is good. But the development players must be good enough to cut it in first grade.

Yep but if you think of it terms of Chee Kam and co they mightn’t even get a game, surely it has to be worth punting on a couple youngster's, you never know, could back a winner, no way the old boys take us anywhere.

 

[Disco]

Code Sports did some article based on a leaked salary cap benchmarking doc showing squad breakdowns.

From memory top 4 clubs from recent years have 11 players under 200k.

Bottom 4 teams only have 9 players under 200k.

Top 4 teams have 5 players earning approx 4.5mil.

Top 4 teams spend 40% of cap on top 5 players and 60% of cap on top 10 players.

Which means your remaining 20 players average out at $236k.

Now obviously that doesnt take into account 3rd party deals, long player allowances etc etc but still interesting.

So many players out there busting their bodys out there for what I'm sure a good few of us would be earning.

Anyhoo......just found it interesting.

 

[Disco]

Cheers woodsie, still I’d like to know a) if development players can be included in the 30 and if they can b) how many of them can you have.

Savala at the chooks is a development player, his on 85k, nice work if you can find and them and even better if you can fill 2 or 3 spots in the 30 or are development players counted separately to the 30? I’m pretty sure there’s an allocation of cap for a certain number of them, just not sure if there outside the 30.

Development players are outside the top 30.

If you are in the top 30 you must be paid min wage.

So Chee Kam theoretically could be on 85k outside of the cap but Matterson must be on $145k

 

[Top End Eagle]

It's not his parents we want in goal, it's Hass in the opposition goal after scoring another try.

Oof - that was a lot of hogwash just to point out you accidentally typed goal, not gaol.

Just come over to the dark side and type jail..! lol.

erm...Looking at the bronco stats in the forwards, it was Haas and Carringan and basically no one else. So he's putting in at least. Even with that 1 big run up the sideline.

Are forwards worth super big coin in today's game? I don't know, but you'd think we'd throw our hat in the ring. His family pursuits don't seem to effect his on-field performances.

I bet you're a gentle lover too.

 

[globaleagle]

I bet you're a gentle lover too.

I've forgotten.

 

[robbiea]

I've forgotten.

But she hasnt !

 

[Brookie1973]

But she hasnt !

I’m betting Bozo has a meme that covers this type of situation.

 

[Jay Eagle]

Code Sports did some article based on a leaked salary cap benchmarking doc showing squad breakdowns.

From memory top 4 clubs from recent years have 11 players under 200k.

Bottom 4 teams only have 9 players under 200k.

Top 4 teams have 5 players earning approx 4.5mil.

Top 4 teams spend 40% of cap on top 5 players and 60% of cap on top 10 players.

Which means your remaining 20 players average out at $236k.

Now obviously that doesnt take into account 3rd party deals, long player allowances etc etc but still interesting.

So many players out there busting their bodys out there for what I'm sure a good few of us would be earning.

Anyhoo......just found it interesting.

Found it very interesting when the Cheese said on Sunday night footy with Matty Johns..
The Roosters took his car off him..


Now its well publicised and common knowledge Politis made his fortune from selling cars..and has a number of dealerships including high end exotic car dealerships, but as a club official is there any rule on thitd party deals from a direct source related to the club?

I remember Manly being fined because an elderly lady (ex lawyer ) made payments to Foz.. she since passed away.

The NRL at the time stated that this was contrary to the salary cap rules because of her link with the club.

I'm betting part of every deal the Roosters do to lure marquee players is offer cars to the player and their families.. cars are not cheap
So this could easily add $50 to $100 k to a player.. even more if the player and his partner ask for prestige vehicles..

And yes...cash deals are also very common in the car industry so brown paper bags would not be in short supply. But that's another story.

Anyone know more about what Politis and his group of companies are able to put in as third party deals.

He's Greek mate Mark Bouris has a mortgage, finance and real estate company so I would love to see how the NRL look at their books and their third party contracts.

Wouldn't be hard to have already set up a car dealership , real estate and a finance company in different names that belong to "Mates" then have those "mates" offer third party contract deals to marquee players..

So Teddy here's your NRL contract $850k for 3 years

And here's your third party deals:
Car dealer-
New Mercedes $180k
Wife's Range Rover $120k
Real Estate-
We've also got you a penthouse for the next 3 years, fully paid rent $300k
Finance company-
Oh and we secured school fees for that private school your kid needs to go to for next 3 years $250k

So Teddy could be on $1.13mill per season.. not $850k