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Halves crap - Wonder why?

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by maxta, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. maxta

    maxta Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    The pure & simple truth behing the form of Foran & DCE looking like park footballers against Sandow & Norman who looked the best halves on earth, is the platform they got from the respective foward packs.
    Though looking a little confused at times, noted Foran take the line on at full throttle on a few occasions & if it was at a retreating defence(like Manly's) would have split them open each time. I will confess he was not at his best as far as mindset - but his efforts were evident against a rugged & pumped team who had the luxury of coming up quickly in defence after winning the ruck area by dominating EVERY contest.
    DCE - tries his guts out imo, seen some 1 on 1 tackles when their massive fowards targetted him which cements his commitment & apart from B Stewart looked the most threatening in attack.
    Lets not confuse the fact he is leaving to this performance - throw Johns, Thurston & Lockyer behind that pack last night & they would have looked just as ordinary.
    The platform in the middle dictated the story & though the tries were scored by outside backs the true damage was done up the guts.
    The only half I have ever seen that can still create behind a beaten pack was Cliffy Lyons but he was more freak than player....
    Anyway - the point is, like most here I'm far from happy with the BS & uncertainty off the field - fact is - this game was NOT the halves fault - but the fowards.
     
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    • ManlyArmy

      ManlyArmy Well-Known Member

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      Foran busted himself last night trying to keep us in it!
       
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      • winnyason

        winnyason Well-Known Member

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        Jt is only play i have seen like cliffy.
         
      • sheridanstand78

        sheridanstand78 Well-Known Member

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        Foran did great till he got hurt. Our pack was pedestrian, Sandow was magnificent.
         
      • cava2323

        cava2323 Active Member

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        Can we clone Cliffy now please.
         
      • Shoe1

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        I disagree. We lost that game in the halves and out wide. Especially on our right side. Plenty of times we had good field position and no clue what to do with it.
         
      • anthonyb1965

        anthonyb1965 GO Manly Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        I thought our backline were ordinary in the first half when our forwards did hold their own. The second half our pack resembled the ambush from the tigers last year, just no impact.
         
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        • maxta

          maxta Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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          The forwards never held there own - the good field position came from Parra's handling errors & the Eels central defence hit hard enough to allow the backs to be up in our face, creating loose passes & poor decisions in attack where only a Foran Cutout pass was unfairly called forward, we certainly didn't play through them as again - their forwards overpowered ours all day with only field position from their poor handling keeping us in the game that 1st half.
           
        • Jethro

          Jethro This space is for rent Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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          In my opinion, Sandow is their X-factor (Luke Burt was their previous X-factor who always seemed to pull something out of his butt against us) and his efforts last night is what worked against us last night.
           
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          • cherry_poppins

            cherry_poppins Well-Known Member

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            Lol he dropped the ball because his widdle weg hurt
             
          • sheridanstand78

            sheridanstand78 Well-Known Member

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            I think you are being unfair Cherry. Foz really put in, have a look at his chasing of kicks before he got hurt. We were busted last night and unfocussed because our gun half back decided to stuff the week by announcing his departure.
             
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            • mozgrame

              mozgrame Well-Known Member

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              Agree 100%. Anyone that doesn't rate Sandow as a number 7 is still thinking of him from 2/3 years ago. He looks fit and settled. He is a tough little prick, but he is as cunning as a sh1thouse rat. Always thinking ahead. I reckon he'll have a huge year this year, as will the eels. Always give credit where credit is due, right?
               
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              • Frogz

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                And playing for a new contract also. Amazing how they step up.
                 
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                • mozgrame

                  mozgrame Well-Known Member

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                  Perhaps it has something to do with his new coach.
                   
                • Brookie Brawler

                  Brookie Brawler Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                  Left it a bit late hasn't he? He's already a game into the last year of his current deal FFS!
                   
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                  • MPC75

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                    We got dominated in the forwards. Could be a long year if the forwards don't step up. Good news is next year we will have money to buy some grunt up front. T Burgess will be on our hit list.
                     
                  • Snake

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                    We had "circumstantial" field position from infringements and Parramatta's poor handling. The reason we didn't know what to do with "it" was because we were not winning the battle in the forwards/ruck. Winning the forward battle is not simply about carving out metres, it about bending the line and attracting defenders and getting a roll on around the ruck so the space opens up out wide for the backs; that didn't happen all night because Parramatta won the collision in both our red zone and our attacking zones.
                     
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                    • Snake

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                      Parramatta have thrashed sides in round 1 for the last 3 seasons. Give them a few weeks before you start predicting a big year for them.
                       
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                      • Ryan

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                        Is it just me, or was the Manly / Parra game more brutal and fast paced than all the other games so far this round? Maybe I'm biased, but Parra played like this was their GF. I wouldn't be surprised if they have a very flat game next week.
                         
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                        • Snake

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                          They were very fired up and played with enormous intensity.

                          The script was written long before kick off though.

                          Parramatta would be hungry; check.
                          Watmough will have their pack fired up; check
                          DCE mind will not be on the job; check
                          Hiku's wing will be exposed by Semi; check
                          Foran finishes wishing he was playing for the opposition; check
                          Mateo flops; check
                          Mason flops; check
                          Sandow scores a try and carries on like a knob; check

                          It really couldn't have gone any worse than even the most pessimistic Manly supporter could have imagined. It was a horror night.

                          I will cheer the boys on again next week!!!
                           
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