Greatest halfbacks

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I agree, i'm an unashamed Cronk fan and I reckon he gives Thurston a run for his money.

DCE copped it a bit when QLD lost in 2014 and he was partnering Thurston due to Cronk's injury. How Thurston escaped blame is beyond me; Thurston was apparently the immortal in the waiting but didn't step up (at all). If DCE partnered Cronk, I think QLD win as Cronk was the master at executing the game plan and allowing others to shine. A great player, imo (and the fact he seemingly has no time for Smith is a quality that, although common, should not be overlooked.)

And as Mal Meninga also said back in 2018, part of the problem in those early Origins was that they didn't play DCE to his strengths. Instead of letting him play his game, they basically had him be nothing more than a link man with Thurston running the show. Cherry copped a lot of crap for being too quiet and doing nothing, but that is pretty much how he was told to play. Let Thurston and Smith run everything and try not to get in their way.

And Ranga, I have always said that had it been Thurston who broke his arm and not Cronk, Qld would have won the 2014 series because I too felt that Cronk would have worked a lot better with DCE.

What a lot of people also forget about that 2014 series is that it was almost the first time in a decade where the NSW pack out played the Maroons for the majority of it (and they didn't have Mitchell Pearce to stuff things up). But apparently DCE was the only reason Qld lost and he was basically put into representative exile for 4 years as a result.

But here is something to ponder. Notice how Meninga, and the senior Qld players, have only come to Cherry's defence in the past couple of years after they'd all retired from rep footy and Daly was the only one left capable of leading Qld? But for those 4 exile years they were quite happy to let him take the blame for 2014.....
 
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Matt Logue, The Daily Telegraph
April 16,

Warning: this bloke reckons Kimmorley is number 8 and DCE "Is still in the infancy of his career" at number 18

1 Andrew Johns: The most complete halfback the game has ever seen. Two premierships, three Dally Ms, two Golden Boots, Immortal status and dominant records on the Origin and Test stages. Johns also had the sharpest footy mind — always thinking two plays ahead of everyone, and tackled like a backrower.

2 Johnathan Thurston: The busiest halfback in league history, “JT” finishes a close second behind Joey Johns because his defence wasn’t as strong. But you can’t deny Thurston’s champion status. Like Johns, he dominated with premierships, Dally M Medals and Golden Boots. His records for Queensland and Australia were also exemplary.

3 Allan Langer: “Alfie” was built like a trackwork jockey but had a heart the size of Phar Lap. Courageous, tough and as skilful as they come, he won four premierships with Brisbane and was named Broncos Player of the Year a record five times. He was also brilliant for Queensland and Australia.

4 Peter Sterling: “Sterlo” defined the 1980s with his dominant record at Parramatta. He formed one of the game’s greatest half combinations with Brett Kenny to help the Eels win four premierships. He was also outstanding in Origin for the Blues, winning four man-of-the-match awards in his 13 appearances.

5 Ricky Stuart: “Sticky” changed the game in the late 80s and early 90s with his long, spiralling passes to both sides of the field. He won three premierships with Canberra and was part of dominant Australian and NSW teams.

6 Cooper Cronk: After 15 stellar seasons, Cronk retired an NRL champion and one of the finest players the game has ever seen after steering the Sydney Roosters to back-to-back titles with victory over Canberra last year. He claimed four grand final wins, two Dally M Medals, seven Origin series wins and two World Cup triumphs. He is also the first player since halfback Johnny Mayes to win three straight premierships at two different clubs.

7 Steve Mortimer: One of Wagga’s finest athletes in any sport, Mortimer played a club record 272 games for Canterbury. He captained the Bulldogs to three premierships in the 1980s, while he will be forever remembered for skippering NSW to the state’s first Origin series victory in 1985.

8 Brett Kimmorley: This guy was so good that he often forced Andrew Johns to hooker in representative teams during the late 90s and early 2000s. “Noddy” Kimmorley was outstanding in Melbourne’s maiden premiership season in 1999 while he excelled for his state and country.

9 Stacey Jones: New Zealand’s Little Master. Jones didn’t win a premiership, losing the 2002 decider to the Roosters, but it doesn’t diminish his brilliance. He starred for the Kiwis on the Test stage, scoring 17 tries in 48 appearances.

10 Greg Alexander: “Brandy” had the versatility to play in several positions, but he was a top-class performer at halfback. Alexander’s finest moment was captaining Penrith to the club’s first premiership in 1991. He also stood out for NSW and Australia when called upon.

11 Kevin Hastings: This guy is Roosters royalty after a stellar career with the Bondi-based club. Hastings played 239 games for the Tricolours and dominated individual awards in the 1980s, taking home the Dally M halfback of the year three times and collecting a Rothmans Medal in 1981.

12 Geoff Toovey: One of the toughest footballers for his diminutive size to ever play the game. Toovey played a lot of his career at hooker, but he also starred at halfback. He captained the Sea Eagles to the 1996 premiership over St George wearing the No.7 jumper.

13 Craig Gower: This Penrith-born No.7 is a fan favourite at the foot of the mountains. Gower scored 55 tries in his 238 games for the Panthers, while he also captained the club to the 2003 premiership.

14 Tommy Raudonikis: Tommy would be higher but he played most of his career before 1980. That said, Raudonikis was still successful in the 80s with a grand final appearance in 1981 against eventual premiers Parramatta.

15 Matt Orford: The “Ox” wasn’t the biggest bloke but he always played above
his weight. Orford starred for the Melbourne Storm in the early stages of his career but he enjoyed his finest years with Manly. He was particularly outstanding in 2008 when he captained the Sea Eagles to the premiership, while he also won the Dally M medal.

16 Scott Prince: One of the game’s most underrated players, Prince possessed a brilliant football mind. His highlight came in 2005 when he captained the Wests Tigers to the joint-venture club’s maiden premiership while also collecting the Clive Churchill Medal for best on ground.

17 Mitchell Pearce: Pearce has his critics, particularly on the Origin stage, but he has consistently performed at a high level in club football. He scored 62 tries during his 239-game career with the Sydney Roosters, and also won a premiership with them in 2013.

18 Daly Cherry-Evans: DCE is still in the infancy of his career but he has proved that he belongs among the finest No.7s. He won a premiership with Manly in 2011, while he has represented both Queensland and Australia.

19 Ben Hornby: Another underrated player, Hornby rarely produced a poor performance. He was rewarded for his toil in 2010 when he captained St George Illawarra to the joint-
venture club’s maiden premiership.

20 Brent Sherwin: “Shifty” Sherwin had one of rugby league’s best short kicking games. He didn’t play for NSW or Australia but his club career with Canterbury was hugely successful,
including winning a premiership with the Bulldogs in 2004.

Honourable mentions: Adam Reynolds, Des Hasler, Gary Freeman, Michael Hagan, Jason Taylor, Craig Wing, Phil Blake, Noel Goldthorpe, Craig Polla-Mounter, Paul Green, Adrian Lam and Shaun Johnson.
I was with the guy until he placed Pearce and prince before cherry evans.. no way they are close to him let alone above him. Dce in 2011 2012 2013 2014 was absolutely outstanding and 2017 i think it was
 
I agree, i'm an unashamed Cronk fan and I reckon he gives Thurston a run for his money.

DCE copped it a bit when QLD lost in 2014 and he was partnering Thurston due to Cronk's injury. How Thurston escaped blame is beyond me; Thurston was apparently the immortal in the waiting but didn't step up (at all). If DCE partnered Cronk, I think QLD win as Cronk was the master at executing the game plan and allowing others to shine. A great player, imo (and the fact he seemingly has no time for Smith is a quality that, although common, should not be overlooked.)
I haven't rated cronk for years.. cherry evans is a much better player. Cronk always had the best players in the game around him at storm then steps into an even better team at roosters. For me dce has been miles better for years
 
Why bother even discussing what is just the Telegraph trying to ensure they sell their paper by trying to introduce some controversial articles. One item had Cliffy way down the list of 5/8s for example. My understanding is that this is based on supporters nominating who they think is the best player in a particular position. And of course clubs that have the biggest support number will ensure their favoured players are near the top. Its a joke.
 
I haven't rated cronk for years.. cherry evans is a much better player. Cronk always had the best players in the game around him at storm then steps into an even better team at roosters. For me dce has been miles better for years
You are right to the extent that you don't really know how good a half is until you see how they play in an average team and Cronk was never in an average team. I think Cronk still would have succeeded and been highly regarded because he was super consistent in everything he did.

Don't get me wrong, I am a BIG DCE fan and so I don't really want to get into a DCE v Cronk debate. I have seen DCE dominate games (or part of games) in a way that Cronk never did, but I always thought that the difference between Cronk's best and worst game was not that far apart (and his best was excellent). That's why I think Cronk was elite.

In the list in the article there is a fair gap between the top 7 and the rest. DCE can join them by the end of his career but there is still a lot left on the table for him to achieve. I'd love to see him win a Dally M - he definitely has the ability and team around him to win at least one of over the next few years.
 

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