Gallen for once is right!!

[sheridanstand78]

There are many things that I do not agree with Paul Gallen, but one thing he said today is something I totally agree with.

He points out what every fan in the game who is fair knows, that Melbourne, Brisbane, North Queensland and you can chuck in the Rorters as well, only retain players because of the overs their key players get from third party payments.

I cringe when I hear Greenturd say how even this comp is. What a joke!! The reality is that the four teams I mentioned above will be strong favourites to again make the 8 and most likely the top 4. The salary cap and third party payments needs to be overhauled as a matter of urgency!!

It is more evidence for me that the Queensland clubs and I include the Drizzle in that category are favoured by Greenturds regime and the other clubs get the scraps.

Ironic isnt it? that our club has been dragged through a process of rorting the cap that has gone on months, while I rivals snigger at that and abuse the cap and third party payments with no scrutiny at all.

This is all under Greenturds watch!! Never I have seen such inequity and unfairness reign like it is now!!

 

[Heckenberg]

From a DT article...doesn't name all the clubs... But interestingly, we are.

"It is known Melbourne Storm benefited most. Storm players earned an extra $788,000 in third parties.

Brisbane was next, more than $200,000 below Melbourne but still commanding more than half a million dollars in third party income. Penrith was third, also benefiting by more than half a million dollars paid to its players in third parties.

The other club significantly above the average last season was Manly, spending more than $300,000.

The bottom club, St George Illawarra, got only a small third party benefit, receiving $26,000 in extra income.

Third parties are the ugly rebuttal in the NRL claim of competition parity."

That’s only the third party agreements that are registered too.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I think Manly’s largest TPA would be with Cherry and Foxsports , and I wouldn’t be surprised if that probably is the only one.

It’s farcical at best, and meanwhile we get attacked and our name sullied by #grannygate

 

[Frogz]

That’s only the third party agreements that are registered too.

Yes and it wont show the Thoroughbreds coughing up the court fine for Matt Lodge either.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

And whilst ranting I’m absolutely over the “lovefest” I’m seeing on TV over just 2 or 3 sides and a couple of people.

Fair dinkum, I know Fox League don’t have a lot of current stuff to broadcast at present but how many bloody times do they need to show the Scam / JT show??

I reckon it’s on a twice a day loop at present, and nearly every Facebook post either Nine or Fox Sports relates to , Scam, JT , Mitchell Pearce or Cronk.

FFS, don’t they realise that there 12 other sides out there probably covering hundreds and hundreds of thousands of fans.

Obviously not!!

 

[manly al]

All for legitimate parity and a sense of fairness with major sporting competition formats but really unfortunately does not seem to be the case in most instances . Maybe Greenberg and his disreputable organization may attempt to improve the current third party anomaly practices but would not expect much at all really in the short term . The best recommendation for Penn and Gorman right now [ and which no doubt they are probably striving to do ] and in the present circumstances would be to just try and seek out and maximize and enhance Manly "s third party opportunities and actual deals as much as is manageable and practical . Salary cap witch hunt not with standing .

 

[simon64]

And whilst ranting I’m absolutely over the “lovefest” I’m seeing on TV over just 2 or 3 sides and a couple of people.

Fair dinkum, I know Fox League don’t have a lot of current stuff to broadcast at present but how many bloody times do they need to show the Scam / JT show??

I reckon it’s on a twice a day loop at present, and nearly every Facebook post either Nine or Fox our up relates to , Scam, JT , Mitchell Pearce or Cronk.

FFS, don’t they realise that there 12 other sides out there probably covering hundreds and hundreds of thousands of fans.

Obviously not!!

I've noticed how often they're showing it Mark.
But each time I just keep scrolling.
Can honestly say I haven't watched even one second of that lovefest.

Barf.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

All for legitimate parity and a sense of fairness with major sporting competition formats but really unfortunately does not seem to be the case in most instances . Maybe Greenberg and his disreputable organization may attempt to improve the current third party anomaly practices but would not expect much at all really in the short term . The best recommendation for Penn and Gorman right now [ and which no doubt they are probably striving to do ] and in the present circumstances would be to just try and seek out and maximize and enhance Manly "s third party opportunities and actual deals as much as is manageable and practical . Salary cap witch hunt not with standing .

Yep, if you can’t beat them join them!

 

[Shoe1]

And whilst ranting I’m absolutely over the “lovefest” I’m seeing on TV over just 2 or 3 sides and a couple of people.

Fair dinkum, I know Fox League don’t have a lot of current stuff to broadcast at present but how many bloody times do they need to show the Scam / JT show??

I reckon it’s on a twice a day loop at present, and nearly every Facebook post either Nine or Fox Sports relates to , Scam, JT , Mitchell Pearce or Cronk.

FFS, don’t they realise that there 12 other sides out there probably covering hundreds and hundreds of thousands of fans.

Obviously not!!

2ky this morning had a very long interview with Kevin Walters about the broncos and how fantastic they are going with training. It sounds awesome! I’m looking forward to the storm or nq being on tomorrow !!

We don’t get to hear, see or read enough about these fantastic franchises!!!

I’m so glad Sydney radio ignores the Sydney clubs, because it would stop us hearing about the godlike status of their no. 7, nikerima, who by all accounts will be named an immortal shortly.

I believe he is slightly more experienced than our no. 6, croker. So premiership favorites the broncs.

 

[Jigzkiller]

I cringe when I hear Greenturd say how even this comp is. What a joke!! The reality is that the four teams I mentioned above will be strong favourites to again make the 8 and most likely the top 4. The salary cap and third party payments needs to be overhauled as a matter of urgency!!

Funny how this was never "urgent" when from 2005-2014 10 straight years we made finals. In those seasons we were strong favorites for top 4 and premiers now because others are in the same situation the system is broken or rigged and needs "urgent" attention.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Funny how this was never "urgent" when from 2005-2014 10 straight years we made finals. In those seasons we were strong favorites for top 4 and premiers now because others are in the same situation the system is broken or rigged and needs "urgent" attention.

Were TPA’s even a thing in 2005??

And yes the system was broken then too as evidenced by the stripping of two Premierships by the Melbourne Storm.

All that’s happened today is that the NRL have created a legal way for the rich clubs to Rort the Cap , and yes I’d suggest that’s in fact a broken system!

 

[sheridanstand78]

Funny how this was never "urgent" when from 2005-2014 10 straight years we made finals. In those seasons we were strong favorites for top 4 and premiers now because others are in the same situation the system is broken or rigged and needs "urgent" attention.

It actually was urgent back then, if your memory recollects the Dogs and Drizzle were both caught up in huge salary cap scandals.

The team we had in that era was pretty much built on smart recruiting and the only marquee players we got were Jamie Lyon and Ben Kennedy, the rest was a group of young kids coming through and we built a champion team and back ended contracts was the method in retaining them. As we know that cost us dearly in the end.

Even back in that era, the Drizzle used the blue print the Donkeys used to rort the salary cap in their favour, the biggest mystery is how the Donkey avoided any sanction.

 

[COMMANDER]

Have you noticed that the Broncos have not won a Premiership since the death of noted Thoroughbred and Chairman of Mount Isa Mines Don Talbot. The Broncos chances went down in the same plane as him.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Have you noticed that the Broncos have not won a Premiership since the death of noted Thoroughbred and Chairman of Mount Isa Mines Don Talbot. The Broncos chances went down in the same plane as him.

Very good point, and clearly the Thoroughbred’s aren’t as strong as they once were!!

 

[Class of 96]

I’m going to play devil’s advocate, and most probably detonate a Silvertails grenade in the process.

TPA’s - whilst the ‘evil’ clubs have greater market opportunities for their players TPA’s due to one club city status, every player in the comp has the ability to market themselves for TPA’s. We seem to be sitting fairly high on the TPA list by that article, so are we that greatly disadvantaged? I’m terms of marketable personalities at the club that would be of interest to business, we should be well placed with the likes of DCE and the Turbos as they are clean skins that present a great image of the sport, and of themselves.

Any removal of TPA’s is in my opinion a restraint of trade on players. Why shouldn’t they earn extra income if they are marketable. Every other code around the world does it. Would it be even legal to say to players we are going to cap your earning potential? No it is not.

So in principle, I have no problem with TPA’s, nor should they go away.

The issue is transparency and the role of the club. What stands out to me is is Penrith trying transfer a TPA from Moylan to Maloney. If this is the case, then it is a club TPA, not a player negotiated TPA, therefore a line has been crossed.

We are dreaming if we think clubs would not try to encourage business to sponsor players, and I doubt we are any different to the other clubs. As long as that agreement is ultimately between the player and the business.

 

[ManlyMatt]

Have you noticed that the Broncos have not won a Premiership since the death of noted Thoroughbred and Chairman of Mount Isa Mines Don Talbot. The Broncos chances went down in the same plane as him.

Never heard about any of this, so I typed in "Don Talbot Brisbane Broncos", to google and this article came up (It's ken, not don). Ken Talbot, who had been charged with corruption before, was making $100, 000 payments to Wayne Bennet as a sort of donation for his disabled kids. Wayne Bennet is definitely not poor so the payments seem strange to me. The article doesn't really allude to anything illegal but it all seems dodgy as hell.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...d/news-story/83fb64ee740a95915432aa1b89643e61

 

[manlywarringah]

When Greenturd first took over as boss of the NRL, he talked about how 80% of the 3rd Party deals are spread across 4 teams in the NRL and he had a real problem with it.

Since he got in the job he suddenly went the other way and let the clubs have as many 3rd party deals as they could get.

Seems he changed his mind on this issue once he got involved with them. 😎

The whole thing is a mess and he's a big part why.

 

[COMMANDER]

Never heard about any of this, so I typed in "Don Talbot Brisbane Broncos", to google and this article came up (It's ken, not don). Ken Talbot, who had been charged with corruption before, was making $100, 000 payments to Wayne Bennet as a sort of donation for his disabled kids. Wayne Bennet is definitely not poor so the payments seem strange to me. The article doesn't really allude to anything illegal but it all seems dodgy as hell.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...d/news-story/83fb64ee740a95915432aa1b89643e61

Dodgy all right. You have to wonder how the Bronco's managed to have basically the entire Origin team and 10 or 11 of the Australian Team under the salary cap.

 

[globaleagle]

Never heard about any of this, so I typed in "Don Talbot Brisbane Broncos", to google and this article came up (It's ken, not don). Ken Talbot, who had been charged with corruption before, was making $100, 000 payments to Wayne Bennet as a sort of donation for his disabled kids. Wayne Bennet is definitely not poor so the payments seem strange to me. The article doesn't really allude to anything illegal but it all seems dodgy as hell.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...d/news-story/83fb64ee740a95915432aa1b89643e61

...wow

 

[jbb/james]

3rd party deals should have a positive impact on the game as well as lining playerrs pockets. What they promote should also promote league to an extent, not directly but league should benefit from player x on the box all the time.

But the current system really doesnt reward a player being well behaved or to be to concerned about there own brand. Essentially if tha player is good enogh they Will get the coin by hook or by crook.

So while the nrl is constantly running around putting out fires due to off field incidents , there own system works against them from the start and just doesnt promote the type of player they wish for

In a propery run, administered system only players with real corporate appeal would cash in , and players behaviour would come back to haunt them , rather than the current recruitment process where clubs find dollars through other avenues to juggle the existing roster and players they wish to add regardless of how big a tool player x is. You cant have it both ways. Reward the wicked but punish the wicked

Its so stupid you have to wonder who would come up with such a system........oh wait