Des Hasler was 1 of my favourite players & as a coach - well the tale of success speaks louder than words. Noone can debate if he has been great - tha stats dont lie however.....he is now a SeaDog - part Seaeagle & part Bulldog & no matter what anyone says about his undoubted loyalty to Manly, make no mistake -this is how it is. 1 - Negotiations have been going a LONG time...with the Bulldogs. Did it effect his commitment to Manly in 2011 -NO. But heres the problem. 2 - Des coaches at Manly 2012 & for mine will not intentionally be out to hurt the Seaeagles, in fact wants to win the title 100% & probably will. 3 - The players who are the nucleus of this winning side & would walk over broken glass for him want 1 coach -Des - & mark my words if he leaves many will follow him or jump of what the media circus will call a sinking ship, us Seaeagle supporters of course reach for life jackets but never leave the ship. 4- This vested interest intentional or not, will tear the club far more, atm its just a coach & player leaving. I have every confidence under Toovey in 2012 we will get the same result -& keep more players.