Exploiting our overtalented ranks

[The Eagle]

Ok,im sure some of you will blast the idea of this but i think this could work

We have backs who are almost set in stone,Wolfman looks unlikely to return......or is he?

Im thinking what could be very handy is an ultra quick back row weapon that has been somewhat pigeon holed as a winger

Imagine this for a moment,that sharp inside ball as Ballin takes off to the right,passes left but instead of hitting a slow moving target such as,well lets face it,90% of our pack he hits wolf on the chest,wolf having come on at about the 30 minute mark blasts through the gaping hole with only the fullback to beat and plenty of options at his disposal such as Brett on his inside in support

The team would look something like this

1.B Stewart
2.M Robertson
3.J Lyon
4.S Matai
5.W Hopoate
6.K Foran
7.D Cherry-Evans
8.J King
9.M Ballin
10.B Kite
11.A Watmough
12.J Buhrer
13.G Stewart

14.D Williams
15.G Rose
16.J Gulavao
17.T Robinson

Just for a moment,sit back and picture those tired forwards in your mind grasping the gust of air as the Wolf leaves them in his wake,he gets to the fullback and either dummys or passes to his support player and a try is scored,he runs as hard if not harder than most of our front row,his alot faster than our back row

How many points would that be worth a game,how could you shut that point factory down

 

[Chip and Chase]

I don't understand this fascination with trying to find spots for outside backs in the pack/bench just for the sake of getting them a run. Let's see how effective Wolfman is after he has 20 minutes worth of opposition traffic running at him up the middle that he has to tackle.

What exactly is stopping him from hitting that Matt Ballin pass when he is named on the wing ?? Just because he is wearing a 14 on his jumper doesn't turn him into some line break machine.

 

[Dan]

No that would not work you can't waste a bench spot on a back.

The pigs are bigger and do more work we need to have replacements for them

 

[WAMF]

Oldfield is quicker than Wolfy, even after Oldfields been playing for 80 mins!
Wolfy should just concentrate on being hip and plonking or whatever they call it because he is everywhere bar the footy field of late and if a decision had to be made on which winger to punt, he'd be gone before Robbo and even T-rex (who offers some utility value).

 

[Ralphie]

He'd be injured after 2 hitups and out for six weeks.

 

[MadMarcus]

My thoughts exactly Ralphie.

 

[Sheikheagle]

Love the wolf but way to injury prone so if we must cut a winger he would be my choice

 

[Ian Martin tragic]

Agreed Sheik; we could secure Oldfield and have some dough to cover some other young guns. Good winger when he plays, but compare to robbo to figure out whether he's been worth it. Forward? tell him he's dreamin.....

 

[Matabele]

This thread started by the poster who called my ideas dumb?

 

[Cameron]

This thread started by the poster who called my ideas dumb?

because they are

 

[The Eagle]

This thread started by the poster who called my ideas dumb?

You hate our best forward,your ideas and reactions are irrelevant

 

[jjai]

Ok,im sure some of you will blast the idea of this but i think this could work

We have backs who are almost set in stone,Wolfman looks unlikely to return......or is he?

Im thinking what could be very handy is an ultra quick back row weapon that has been somewhat pigeon holed as a winger

Imagine this for a moment,that sharp inside ball as Ballin takes off to the right,passes left but instead of hitting a slow moving target such as,well lets face it,90% of our pack he hits wolf on the chest,wolf having come on at about the 30 minute mark blasts through the gaping hole with only the fullback to beat and plenty of options at his disposal such as Brett on his inside in support

The team would look something like this

1.B Stewart
2.M Robertson
3.J Lyon
4.S Matai
5.W Hopoate
6.K Foran
7.D Cherry-Evans
8.J King
9.M Ballin
10.B Kite
11.A Watmough
12.J Buhrer
13.G Stewart

14.D Williams
15.G Rose
16.J Gulavao
17.T Robinson

Just for a moment,sit back and picture those tired forwards in your mind grasping the gust of air as the Wolf leaves them in his wake,he gets to the fullback and either dummys or passes to his support player and a try is scored,he runs as hard if not harder than most of our front row,his alot faster than our back row

How many points would that be worth a game,how could you shut that point factory down

for once i`d like to punt wolfy & actually have trex on that bench only because he cover two spots forward & back.. unless you get rid of robinson but why the hell would you have a specialist winger on the bench when we need thrust & go forward especially after the 70th min mark..

 

[swoop]

Hey, The Eagle, better have another drink or a drag of whatever you're smoking.

He's constantly injured on the wing and you want to move him to the forwards. Are you serious?

 

[The Eagle]

Technically yes
But morons always want Shoulders in the back row lol

 

[swoop]

Technically yes
But morons always want Shoulders in the back row lol

If you had any credibility beforehand you've just lost it with you "rant".

 

[Wolfpack]

I'm sure this is fairly obvious to most but I don't think that Dave Williams has the bulk required to play in the forwards & I'm not sure that his frame could hold much more muscle.

I do remember him playing in the back row for Parra in some lower grade though. Back when he was pretending that he could kick goals.

 

[The Eagle]

Thank you Wolfpack

1st post with a somewhat open mind

Ben Creagh doesnt have much bulk either
and he was a prop for a gamebut he is a cat
,Bhurer is still tiny and he does it well

I think he has more bulk than these 2 blokes
If his frame could handle the rigours of an outside
back rower is the real question,im thinking in the
"Dave Taylor" role and a few jaunts up the guts
from deft passing,im not talking a typical forward

Are you sure it wasnt John Williams? He thinks he
can kick goals but he is no better than Covell was

 

[Wolfpack]

Nah it was Davey for sure, he was wearing the 11 from memory. I think that the Sunday Roast played some clips of him in the back row as well when he finally made first grade back in 08.

He has the mentality to do it, I'm just not sure if he could pull it off over the course of a whole season. Funny that you mention Creagh as he was the first player that came to mind when I read about Dave going into the forwards. Creagh is much lankier though which would help him in that position.

Whilst I'd love to see him stay with Manly I just can't see him being here next year. Even if he does move into the forwards it'd be unfair for him to get a shot there over blokes like Harrison & Lussick. He can get more money elsewhere playing on the wing & I think that is the option he will take. Didn't someone post up a rumour on here a short time ago that Parra were looking to get at least one of Williams' back out to that s**thole?

 

[Masked Eagle]

Thank you Wolfpack

1st post with a somewhat open mind

Ben Creagh doesnt have much bulk either
and he was a prop for a gamebut he is a cat
,Bhurer is still tiny and he does it well

I think he has more bulk than these 2 blokes
If his frame could handle the rigours of an outside
back rower is the real question,im thinking in the
"Dave Taylor" role and a few jaunts up the guts
from deft passing,im not talking a typical forward

Are you sure it wasnt John Williams? He thinks he
can kick goals but he is no better than Covell was

Ben Creagh doesn't have much bulk? I can level a lot of things at Ben Creagh but being small isn't one of them. He's fairly lean but he'd still weight around the 105kg mark.

 

[The Eagle]

Somehow,you could be right about Creagh's weight ME,Wiki "confirms" it 104kg@6"4 Wolf is at 92kg@6Foot,Buhrer is listed at 94kg@6"2 according to the same "accurate" webpage

Sure this could be almost as dumb as the infamous 1 marker idea
that the roosters had a few years ago but it takes a total of 1 game or 2 competition points to prove,i doubt we are in any doubt of making the 8 if not the 4 dependant on how deep our injuries go this year,although this year im very confident with our depth,in my opinion we have more depth than any year ive been alive during (2008 inclusive,we used a very low number of players that year,21 from memory)

But in my imagination the play vs Saints (2009 loss,2010 win) could
be so much more lethal with speed like his,try to see that deft Ballin
inside ball to the Wolf with backup on his inside and out,it would be virtually unstoppable no matter which bloke is in the oppositions #1
jersey,if it breaks the line it is 6 points as whoever ran the ball
across the line would have the speed to finish it under the posts

Anyone with speed could do this and this would be a this year only opportunity with the excess of outside backs with talent,but Wolf
would be the perfect option to me because the mixture of acceleration,speed and general size of the mans gonads,he is one
brave son of a bitch,Id give him Mauro's spot and call him a utility

Although as Wolfpack pointed out,his body may not handle the rigours of 20 minutes a game in the pack