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Exploiting our overtalented ranks

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by The Eagle, Apr 23, 2011.

  1. The Eagle

    The Eagle Well-Known Member

    +480 /0
    Ok,im sure some of you will blast the idea of this but i think this could work

    We have backs who are almost set in stone,Wolfman looks unlikely to return......or is he?

    Im thinking what could be very handy is an ultra quick back row weapon that has been somewhat pigeon holed as a winger

    Imagine this for a moment,that sharp inside ball as Ballin takes off to the right,passes left but instead of hitting a slow moving target such as,well lets face it,90% of our pack he hits wolf on the chest,wolf having come on at about the 30 minute mark blasts through the gaping hole with only the fullback to beat and plenty of options at his disposal such as Brett on his inside in support

    The team would look something like this

    1.B Stewart
    2.M Robertson
    3.J Lyon
    4.S Matai
    5.W Hopoate
    6.K Foran
    7.D Cherry-Evans
    8.J King
    9.M Ballin
    10.B Kite
    11.A Watmough
    12.J Buhrer
    13.G Stewart

    14.D Williams
    15.G Rose
    16.J Gulavao
    17.T Robinson

    Just for a moment,sit back and picture those tired forwards in your mind grasping the gust of air as the Wolf leaves them in his wake,he gets to the fullback and either dummys or passes to his support player and a try is scored,he runs as hard if not harder than most of our front row,his alot faster than our back row

    How many points would that be worth a game,how could you shut that point factory down
  2. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +8,619 /80
    I don't understand this fascination with trying to find spots for outside backs in the pack/bench just for the sake of getting them a run. Let's see how effective Wolfman is after he has 20 minutes worth of opposition traffic running at him up the middle that he has to tackle.

    What exactly is stopping him from hitting that Matt Ballin pass when he is named on the wing ?? Just because he is wearing a 14 on his jumper doesn't turn him into some line break machine.
  3. Dan

    Dan Kim Jong Dan Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +7,753 /120
    No that would not work you can't waste a bench spot on a back.

    The pigs are bigger and do more work we need to have replacements for them
  4. WAMF

    WAMF Well-Known Member

    +408 /0
    Oldfield is quicker than Wolfy, even after Oldfields been playing for 80 mins!
    Wolfy should just concentrate on being hip and plonking or whatever they call it because he is everywhere bar the footy field of late and if a decision had to be made on which winger to punt, he'd be gone before Robbo and even T-rex (who offers some utility value).
  5. Ralphie

    Ralphie Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +2,953 /287
    He'd be injured after 2 hitups and out for six weeks.
  6. MadMarcus

    MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +8,383 /74
    My thoughts exactly Ralphie.
  7. Sheikheagle

    Sheikheagle Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +1,459 /64
    Love the wolf but way to injury prone so if we must cut a winger he would be my choice
  8. Ian Martin tragic

    Ian Martin tragic Well-Known Member

    +186 /0
    Agreed Sheik; we could secure Oldfield and have some dough to cover some other young guns. Good winger when he plays, but compare to robbo to figure out whether he's been worth it. Forward? tell him he's dreamin.....
  9. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

    +516 /14
    This thread started by the poster who called my ideas dumb?
  10. Cameron

    Cameron Cambo

    +669 /35
    because they are :)
  11. The Eagle

    The Eagle Well-Known Member

    +480 /0
    You hate our best forward,your ideas and reactions are irrelevant
  12. jjai

    jjai Active Member

    +88 /0
    for once i`d like to punt wolfy & actually have trex on that bench only because he cover two spots forward & back.. unless you get rid of robinson but why the hell would you have a specialist winger on the bench when we need thrust & go forward especially after the 70th min mark..
  13. swoop

    swoop Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +1,543 /26
    Hey, The Eagle, better have another drink or a drag of whatever you're smoking.

    He's constantly injured on the wing and you want to move him to the forwards. Are you serious?
  14. The Eagle

    The Eagle Well-Known Member

    +480 /0
    Technically yes
    But morons always want Shoulders in the back row lol
  15. swoop

    swoop Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +1,543 /26
    If you had any credibility beforehand you've just lost it with you "rant".
  16. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Well-Known Member

    +310 /0
    I'm sure this is fairly obvious to most but I don't think that Dave Williams has the bulk required to play in the forwards & I'm not sure that his frame could hold much more muscle.

    I do remember him playing in the back row for Parra in some lower grade though. Back when he was pretending that he could kick goals.
  17. The Eagle

    The Eagle Well-Known Member

    +480 /0
    Thank you Wolfpack

    1st post with a somewhat open mind

    Ben Creagh doesnt have much bulk either
    and he was a prop for a gamebut he is a cat
    ,Bhurer is still tiny and he does it well

    I think he has more bulk than these 2 blokes
    If his frame could handle the rigours of an outside
    back rower is the real question,im thinking in the
    "Dave Taylor" role and a few jaunts up the guts
    from deft passing,im not talking a typical forward

    Are you sure it wasnt John Williams? He thinks he
    can kick goals but he is no better than Covell was
  18. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Well-Known Member

    +310 /0
    Nah it was Davey for sure, he was wearing the 11 from memory. I think that the Sunday Roast played some clips of him in the back row as well when he finally made first grade back in 08.

    He has the mentality to do it, I'm just not sure if he could pull it off over the course of a whole season. Funny that you mention Creagh as he was the first player that came to mind when I read about Dave going into the forwards. Creagh is much lankier though which would help him in that position.

    Whilst I'd love to see him stay with Manly I just can't see him being here next year. Even if he does move into the forwards it'd be unfair for him to get a shot there over blokes like Harrison & Lussick. He can get more money elsewhere playing on the wing & I think that is the option he will take. Didn't someone post up a rumour on here a short time ago that Parra were looking to get at least one of Williams' back out to that s**thole?
  19. Masked Eagle

    Masked Eagle Well-Known Member

    +976 /0
    Ben Creagh doesn't have much bulk? I can level a lot of things at Ben Creagh but being small isn't one of them. He's fairly lean but he'd still weight around the 105kg mark.
  20. The Eagle

    The Eagle Well-Known Member

    +480 /0
    Somehow,you could be right about Creagh's weight ME,Wiki "confirms" it 104kg@6"4 Wolf is at 92kg@6Foot,Buhrer is listed at 94kg@6"2 according to the same "accurate" webpage

    Sure this could be almost as dumb as the infamous 1 marker idea
    that the roosters had a few years ago but it takes a total of 1 game or 2 competition points to prove,i doubt we are in any doubt of making the 8 if not the 4 dependant on how deep our injuries go this year,although this year im very confident with our depth,in my opinion we have more depth than any year ive been alive during (2008 inclusive,we used a very low number of players that year,21 from memory)

    But in my imagination the play vs Saints (2009 loss,2010 win) could
    be so much more lethal with speed like his,try to see that deft Ballin
    inside ball to the Wolf with backup on his inside and out,it would be virtually unstoppable no matter which bloke is in the oppositions #1
    jersey,if it breaks the line it is 6 points as whoever ran the ball
    across the line would have the speed to finish it under the posts

    Anyone with speed could do this and this would be a this year only opportunity with the excess of outside backs with talent,but Wolf
    would be the perfect option to me because the mixture of acceleration,speed and general size of the mans gonads,he is one
    brave son of a bitch,Id give him Mauro's spot and call him a utility

    Although as Wolfpack pointed out,his body may not handle the rigours of 20 minutes a game in the pack

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