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Expansion on hold.

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by mozgrame, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. mozgrame

    mozgrame Well-Known Member

    +5,127 /51
    Bid teams are vowing not to give up the fight to get a team into the NRL despite the ARL Commission effectively ruling out any expansion until at least 2017.

    The ARLC on Monday handed down its strategic plan for the next five years, which included a new logo, a commitment to a $200 million investment into grassroots development and a goal of doubling club membership to 400,000 by 2017.

    But those targets will have to be achieved without any new clubs, expansion taken off the agenda for the next two years - which in reality means no new teams for at least five years.

    It's a blow for the seven organisations - including groups from Brisbane, Ipswich, Perth and the NSW Central Coast - that have already invested substantial money in battling for a berth.

    But news of the extended time frame did not deter some.

    "We've done a lot of homework and we're ready to go now. But if we have to wait until 2017, so be it," said Craig Davison, head of the Brisbane Bombers bid.

    "Having a team in the NRL is a 100-year exercise so what's another few years when it comes to getting it right."

    Disappointed Central Coast Bears bid chief Greg Florimo said while he would not let his dream die, he wasn't sure whether the would-be club's investors would be as keen.

    "We'll have to assess whether we can fund another two or three years in the wilderness, sitting around not operating," Florimo said.

    "That's going to be the biggest issue for us, whether the stakeholders want to sit around that long.

    "We have to have to sit down with the members and the board to decide where we go from here. I feel we've put in too much hard work to this point just to let it drift away."

    Florimo admitted that when he first started the push in 2009 he envisaged it becoming reality in 2013 to the point they even had t-shirts made up with the branding 'Here come the Bears in 2013'.

    That target was based on the new broadcast rights taking effect in 2013, but in truth it was the negotiation of those rights - during which Nine Network boss David Gyngell stated there was not an appetite for more games - that the chances of expansion nosedived.

    ARLC chairman John Grant said it was vital that the league not only ensure the existing 16 clubs were on a strong financial footing first, but also that the game expanded for the right reasons.

    "That's the purpose of doing a full review, which has not been done," Grant said.

    "We have not undertaken as an administration a review of what does expansion mean for us, where should we expand, on what basis should we expand, what are the criteria for our footy clubs?

    "There's a whole bunch of questions that remain unanswered."

    First the ARLC wants to get its own house in order, as they take on greater control over clubs with payment to each franchise to be performance-based from 2014 onwards.

    Clubs will find out on Wednesday just how much they will have to spend in 2013 but beyond that they will need to prove their growth as an entity to ensure their funding.

    Chief executive of the newly united Central Queensland NRL bid group and Central Queensland Capras, Dennis Keeffe, said the expansion announcement had been flagged.

    "It was expected," Keeffe told AAP.

    "Some projects take a long time to come out of the ground, this one is a bit longer than we would have liked. "I still think there may be a twist and turn or two yet but if that's the case, we're happy do to that."
  2. Hamster Huey

    Hamster Huey Space Invader Premium Member

    +1,178 /9
    Terrible decision. Formal review should be conducted from mid-2013 for a decision early 2014, for inclusion in 2016.

    Give them a definite set of dates and they'll maintain interest and keep supporters, sponsors and funders interested.

    Private bids will struggle without financial support due to the delay, and weaken the competition for inclusion. 4-5 strong bids for 2 positions promotes strong, sustainable models.
  3. tookey

    tookey Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +5,796 /186
    The AFL and Dimetriou are running rings around the NRL. They have a figure of $200m to promote the game.

    How will this be spent? dozens of consultants and steering commitees?

    Surely out of the billion dollars they are going to receive surburban grounds like bookvale should receive at least $10m each for upgrades. The AFL do it.
  4. jbb/james

    jbb/james Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +1,493 /35
    Broncos get nearly all Friday night games, Expansion put on hold reassuring the monopoly of brisbane, IC to look at introducing a grant system based on growth of the game to attract higher payouts by the NRL to individual teams, when originally the idea was floated that teams struggling financially may get a larger slice of the pie , mmmmmmmmmmmmm sounds like the deck is stacked
  5. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

    +9,387 /402
    Whilst discussing expansion is great, I believe the commission need to focus on more important aspects of the game at home, and they are:-

    1. The salary cap. The salary cap needs to be settled so clubs can move forward with roster finalisation. The commission then need to clearly state that it will fully cover the salary cap of each club via monthly distribution.

    2. Revenue sharing. Like most other sports, apart from paying each teams cap, I believe the NRL should share additional revenue with number one, the clubs, then the players. This would encompass revenues gained through state of origin and finals series.

    Clubs need to get a bigger piece of the pie in my opinion for each team to remain viable.

    Depending on the revenue growth of the sport, I believe the players should receive each year an escrow payment, as they are the drivers of the game, and they have a personal stake then in the growth.

    This will keep additional players in our game. How the revenue sharing is determined, should be up to the players association, and the NRL to negotiate.

    There ARE some pitfalls to this, especially if you have wankers negotiating it (like the NHL right now).

    BUT, these are things that should be addressed right now imo.
  6. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

    +1,476 /8
    Surely the bears can find a way to turn this into being all Manlys fault.

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