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Buzz must be getting drunk earlier these days with the half baked ideas he is publishing.

Now he is proposing the bottom 2 teams get regulated, so over the last few years the Broncos and Titans would of been regulated and there is a chance the Cowboys could under this proposal, how great would it be for the game without any Queensland teams.

You get dropped to the second tier comp and have to get rid of your stars to meet the new salary cap, how are you going to fight your way back into the NRL.

All this does is make the strong clubs even stronger, why would a player sign with a team that is rebuilding if that team is going to get pushed to the second tier comp.

STAY OFF THE BOOZE BUZZ, YOU ARE LOOKING LIKE YOU ARE LOOSING YOUR MARBLES.




NRL 2021: Buzz Rothfield’s promotion, relegation system for rugby league​

The future of rugby league has been the subject of much debate around conferences, expansion and bush footy. Here’s a solution, via BUZZ ROTHFIELD.

Phil RothfieldPhil Rothfield



@BuzzRothfield


3 min read
May 3, 2021 - 7:00AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

79 comments





Bring back the North Sydney Bears and, while we’re at it, the Newtown Jets.
And do it without affecting the quality of the NRL competition.
The future of rugby league has been the subject of much debate around conferences, expansion, a lopsided competition and the survival of bush footy.
One option the NRL should consider is promotion and relegation like in UK soccer.
Watch The 2021 NRL Telstra Premiership Live & On-Demand with No Ad-Breaks During Play. New to Kayo? Try 14-Days Free Now >
Relegate two clubs to have a streamlined 14-team NRL premiership and a 10-team Championship (2nd division.)
Here’s how it would work.
Buzz Rothfield has proposed an NRL revolution.

Buzz Rothfield has proposed an NRL revolution.
BETTER FOOTY
The two-conference proposal first raised seven years ago in this newspaper will not improve the standard of the product each week.
It will actually make it worse in that there are not enough quality football players to fill 16 teams, let alone 18.
The gap between the top and bottom teams is too great. We see it every week.
Reducing the number of teams will create a much stronger NRL competition with fewer blowouts and more regular blockbusters.
Players that aren’t quite first graders can join a Championship team.
Melbourne Storm celebrate the 2020 premiership (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Melbourne Storm celebrate the 2020 premiership (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)
THE DESPERATION
There would be as much interest in the bottom end of the ladder as the top.
Lower teams would be as desperate to avoid relegation as top clubs are to make the finals.
It would add huge interest at the back end of the season to games that are normally dead rubbers.
This will surely increase the quality of football, attendances and television ratings.
Imagine the interest if St George-Illawarra was playing the Wests Tigers and needed to win to avoid relegation in the final round. You’d need a big stadium.
DETAILS AT A GLANCE
  • Initially two teams relegated from bottom of the ladder
  • 1 team promoted and relegated each year
  • 14 strong NRL clubs
  • New 10-team Championship (2nd division)
  • Not as many blowouts
  • More blockbuster games
  • Huge interest in bottom placed NRL teams late in season
  • Huge interest in top Championship teams late in season
  • Brings back the Bears and Newtown
  • Puts the onus on the clubs to get their houses in order
  • Massive boost for bush football
  • League on the Central Coast
  • Loan player arrangements for promoted clubs
  • Championship match of the round on TV Wednesday nights


DEMOTED NRL CLUBS
The bottom two teams on the premiership ladder would initially drop to The Championship.
Then the bottom team each year would be relegated.
It sounds harsh and there would no doubt be met with outrage by fans of underperforming NRL clubs like the Wests Tigers, the Canterbury Bulldogs or even the Cronulla Sharks.
However tough and not always fan-friendly calls need to be made.
Uncompetitive teams on the receiving end of blowouts each week are hurting the quality of the NRL competition.
Newtown Jets would return under this proposal.

Newtown Jets would return under this proposal.
Let them go back to The Championship, get their house in order, then try to make it back through better management.
This will force them to think smarter and run a business as well as clubs like the Roosters, Rabbitohs, Storm and the Parramatta Eels.
THE PLAYERS
So what happens to the star NRL players from the clubs that are demoted?
The players could be lent to clubs in the NRL competition. Like Melbourne Storm, the Wests Tigers and Harry Grant last year. It can be done.
The promoted Championship club each year would get first crack in a draft for these players.
NRL 14-TEAM COMP
$10 million salary cap
Teams: Panthers, Storm, Eels, Roosters, Raiders, Rabbitohs, Knights, Sharks, Titans
Warriors, Manly, Dragons, Broncos, Cowboys
  • Play each other twice
  • Top 5 finals series
  • Bottom team drops to Championship


THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Imagine the excitement around a fairytale return for traditional old clubs like the North Sydney Bears and the Newtown Jets.
While these clubs at the moment are nowhere near in a position to be running an NRL side, this at least leaves the door ever so slightly ajar for it to happen in the future.
Both clubs still have enormous fan bases.
The Championship 10-team competition would also put rugby league back on the Central Coast.
This is a thriving rugby league area but lacks enough corporate support to have an NRL franchise. This would change if they won The Championship.
It would also be a way help new expansion clubs like a second Brisbane or New Zealand team get their introductions into a professional environment.
Teams would have a salary cap of $4 million.
CHAMPIONSHIP 10-TEAM COMP
$4 million salary cap
Teams: Wests Tigers, 2nd Brisbane team, Bulldogs, Wellington (NZ), NSW Country, Perth, Central Coast, North Sydney Bears, Newtown, Mackay


NSW COUNTRY
This would give country football the lift and revitalisation it so desperately needs.
The side could be based out of the Riverina, (population 155,000) and once a rugby league heartland before the AFL steamrolled into Wagga Wagga.
It could be a satellite team playing home games in country towns like Dubbo, Bathurst, Mudgee, Tamworth, Armidale and Coffs Harbour but the majority of games out of the Riverina.
It would mean high quality rugby league in the bush every weekend. Youngsters in country towns would dream of making the side and getting TV exposure along a pathway to the NRL.
Results

Do you support a promotion/relegation system in the NRL?​


Yes
54%

No
46%
591 Voters


TV COVERAGE
Having two competitions would allow the NRL to spread the coverage of the game around the TV networks, like what happens with major sport in the United States.
All Championship matches would be covered on TV as well as NRL.
The match of the round could become a regular Wednesday night game on Fox Sports.
THE REACTION
Peter V’Landys has always said he will listen to the fans. This is fantastic.

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However you can’t be completely driven by the parochialism of rugby league supporters.
There will be initial pain but tough decisions need to be made in big business and in sport.
 
Buzz must be getting drunk earlier these days with the half baked ideas he is publishing.

Couldn't agree more ... there are so many holes in his plans that they border on abject numbnuttery ...

And all on the flawed premise that there are are not enough 1st graders to go around ... well anybody that believes that hasn't been watching the juniors ... or the fact that just this year there are probably 10/15 rookie debutants killing it ... Schuster, Guacamole, Sam walker, Staines, Burton, etc etc ... the problem isn't not enough quality 1st graders ... it it the fact that they are all in the top 8 teams ...
 
A drunken sailor....?!?!

What should we do with him?


----------------------------------------------------------------------

there's no guarantee having 2 tiers would stop the blowouts as claimed.

Always a lot of irony when sports 'journos' make claims about getting houses in order.
 
There is so many things wrong with this idea but I’ll only mention one.Clubs,like Manly for example,are already struggling financially compared to the big boys of the comp,who is sponsoring or pouring money into a team that’s playing in a second division comp with minimal exposure?
 
I am in the minority - I love promotion/relegation

it’s means there’s more than just pride on the line for bottom teams later in the season

it requires a strong production line of talent.... and that is where I think the NRL will struggle
 
Buzz must be getting drunk earlier these days with the half baked ideas he is publishing.

Now he is proposing the bottom 2 teams get regulated, so over the last few years the Broncos and Titans would of been regulated and there is a chance the Cowboys could under this proposal, how great would it be for the game without any Queensland teams.

You get dropped to the second tier comp and have to get rid of your stars to meet the new salary cap, how are you going to fight your way back into the NRL.

All this does is make the strong clubs even stronger, why would a player sign with a team that is rebuilding if that team is going to get pushed to the second tier comp.

STAY OFF THE BOOZE BUZZ, YOU ARE LOOKING LIKE YOU ARE LOOSING YOUR MARBLES.




NRL 2021: Buzz Rothfield’s promotion, relegation system for rugby league​

The future of rugby league has been the subject of much debate around conferences, expansion and bush footy. Here’s a solution, via BUZZ ROTHFIELD.

Phil RothfieldPhil Rothfield


@BuzzRothfield

3 min read
May 3, 2021 - 7:00AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
79 comments




Bring back the North Sydney Bears and, while we’re at it, the Newtown Jets.
And do it without affecting the quality of the NRL competition.
The future of rugby league has been the subject of much debate around conferences, expansion, a lopsided competition and the survival of bush footy.
One option the NRL should consider is promotion and relegation like in UK soccer.
Watch The 2021 NRL Telstra Premiership Live & On-Demand with No Ad-Breaks During Play. New to Kayo? Try 14-Days Free Now >
Relegate two clubs to have a streamlined 14-team NRL premiership and a 10-team Championship (2nd division.)
Here’s how it would work.
Buzz Rothfield has proposed an NRL revolution.

Buzz Rothfield has proposed an NRL revolution.
BETTER FOOTY
The two-conference proposal first raised seven years ago in this newspaper will not improve the standard of the product each week.
It will actually make it worse in that there are not enough quality football players to fill 16 teams, let alone 18.
The gap between the top and bottom teams is too great. We see it every week.
Reducing the number of teams will create a much stronger NRL competition with fewer blowouts and more regular blockbusters.
Players that aren’t quite first graders can join a Championship team.
Melbourne Storm celebrate the 2020 premiership (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Melbourne Storm celebrate the 2020 premiership (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)
THE DESPERATION
There would be as much interest in the bottom end of the ladder as the top.
Lower teams would be as desperate to avoid relegation as top clubs are to make the finals.
It would add huge interest at the back end of the season to games that are normally dead rubbers.
This will surely increase the quality of football, attendances and television ratings.
Imagine the interest if St George-Illawarra was playing the Wests Tigers and needed to win to avoid relegation in the final round. You’d need a big stadium.
DETAILS AT A GLANCE
  • Initially two teams relegated from bottom of the ladder
  • 1 team promoted and relegated each year
  • 14 strong NRL clubs
  • New 10-team Championship (2nd division)
  • Not as many blowouts
  • More blockbuster games
  • Huge interest in bottom placed NRL teams late in season
  • Huge interest in top Championship teams late in season
  • Brings back the Bears and Newtown
  • Puts the onus on the clubs to get their houses in order
  • Massive boost for bush football
  • League on the Central Coast
  • Loan player arrangements for promoted clubs
  • Championship match of the round on TV Wednesday nights


DEMOTED NRL CLUBS
The bottom two teams on the premiership ladder would initially drop to The Championship.
Then the bottom team each year would be relegated.
It sounds harsh and there would no doubt be met with outrage by fans of underperforming NRL clubs like the Wests Tigers, the Canterbury Bulldogs or even the Cronulla Sharks.
However tough and not always fan-friendly calls need to be made.
Uncompetitive teams on the receiving end of blowouts each week are hurting the quality of the NRL competition.
Newtown Jets would return under this proposal.

Newtown Jets would return under this proposal.
Let them go back to The Championship, get their house in order, then try to make it back through better management.
This will force them to think smarter and run a business as well as clubs like the Roosters, Rabbitohs, Storm and the Parramatta Eels.
THE PLAYERS
So what happens to the star NRL players from the clubs that are demoted?
The players could be lent to clubs in the NRL competition. Like Melbourne Storm, the Wests Tigers and Harry Grant last year. It can be done.
The promoted Championship club each year would get first crack in a draft for these players.
NRL 14-TEAM COMP
$10 million salary cap
Teams: Panthers, Storm, Eels, Roosters, Raiders, Rabbitohs, Knights, Sharks, Titans
Warriors, Manly, Dragons, Broncos, Cowboys
  • Play each other twice
  • Top 5 finals series
  • Bottom team drops to Championship


THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Imagine the excitement around a fairytale return for traditional old clubs like the North Sydney Bears and the Newtown Jets.
While these clubs at the moment are nowhere near in a position to be running an NRL side, this at least leaves the door ever so slightly ajar for it to happen in the future.
Both clubs still have enormous fan bases.
The Championship 10-team competition would also put rugby league back on the Central Coast.
This is a thriving rugby league area but lacks enough corporate support to have an NRL franchise. This would change if they won The Championship.
It would also be a way help new expansion clubs like a second Brisbane or New Zealand team get their introductions into a professional environment.
Teams would have a salary cap of $4 million.
CHAMPIONSHIP 10-TEAM COMP
$4 million salary cap
Teams: Wests Tigers, 2nd Brisbane team, Bulldogs, Wellington (NZ), NSW Country, Perth, Central Coast, North Sydney Bears, Newtown, Mackay


NSW COUNTRY
This would give country football the lift and revitalisation it so desperately needs.
The side could be based out of the Riverina, (population 155,000) and once a rugby league heartland before the AFL steamrolled into Wagga Wagga.
It could be a satellite team playing home games in country towns like Dubbo, Bathurst, Mudgee, Tamworth, Armidale and Coffs Harbour but the majority of games out of the Riverina.
It would mean high quality rugby league in the bush every weekend. Youngsters in country towns would dream of making the side and getting TV exposure along a pathway to the NRL.
Results

Do you support a promotion/relegation system in the NRL?​


Yes
54%

No
46%
591 Voters


TV COVERAGE
Having two competitions would allow the NRL to spread the coverage of the game around the TV networks, like what happens with major sport in the United States.
All Championship matches would be covered on TV as well as NRL.
The match of the round could become a regular Wednesday night game on Fox Sports.
THE REACTION
Peter V’Landys has always said he will listen to the fans. This is fantastic.

More Coverage​

Shattering news as injury brings curtain down on great career Fittest, fastest, strongest: The incredible lock revolution
However you can’t be completely driven by the parochialism of rugby league supporters.
There will be initial pain but tough decisions need to be made in big business and in sport.

" You get dropped to the second tier comp and have to get rid of your stars to meet the new salary cap, how are you going to fight your way back into the NRL.

All this does is make the strong clubs even stronger, why would a player sign with a team that is rebuilding if that team is going to get pushed to the second tier comp "


totally agree. idiotic piece of toilet paper writing. teams must have the same salary cap or have no salary cap.
 
Couldn't agree more ... there are so many holes in his plans that they border on abject numbnuttery ...

And all on the flawed premise that there are are not enough 1st graders to go around ... well anybody that believes that hasn't been watching the juniors ... or the fact that just this year there are probably 10/15 rookie debutants killing it ... Schuster, Guacamole, Sam walker, Staines, Burton, etc etc ... the problem isn't not enough quality 1st graders ... it it the fact that they are all in the top 8 teams ...
One word, D1CKHEAD !!!!
 
why can't the top 2 of the Championship verse the bottom 2 of the NRL duel it out. I think the bottom 2 teams need to earn their way into the NRL by beating their NRL opponents. IMHO, it should only be last place (NRL) vs first place (2nd Div.)
 
A drunken sailor....?!?!

What should we do with him?


----------------------------------------------------------------------

there's no guarantee having 2 tiers would stop the blowouts as claimed.

Always a lot of irony when sports 'journos' make claims about getting houses in order.
I don't know, but we'll probably have to do it 'earl-I in the morning.....'
 

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