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Does Manly have best depth in comp this year?

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by 1978, Feb 9, 2015.

  1. 1978

    1978 Active Member

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    HI all.. my first post after reading your great site for years.

    Commentators consistently underestimate our depth for three reasons:
    1) they don't follow lower grades like we do
    2) they wrongly equate Reserve grade/ NYC success with depth
    3) they are morons who hate us

    Surely, the true test of depth is the quality of your 18-25 ranked players... ie those who will do most of the back-up. On that measure, I struggle to find a team with a better quality 18-25 this year. Can you?

    Based on my team selection (see below) our 18-25 is;
    18. Horo
    19. Tafua
    20. Wolfman
    21. Blair
    22. Vave
    23. Hodges
    24. Hasson
    25. Jake T

    My team: Snake / Hiku / Killer / Matai / Gutherson / Foran / DCE / Lawrence / Ballin / Starling/ Symonds / Lui / Buher... Reserves: Jesse SL / Mateo / Burgess / Mason

    As an aside, that is the biggest bench we have had in years. Can't think of a team with a bigger, more impactful bench than that this year.
     
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    • Chip and Chase

      Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      Welcome. 1978 was a good year

      We've signed a few forwards which could turn out to be good, time will tell. Our depth is definitely looking healthier than last year. Having said that we haven't struggled badly over the last 5-10 years fro depth, we always seem to unearth someone or pick up good under rated recruits. One spot I think we are light on for depth is centre. If we lose Killer or Skivvi we might struggle, T-Red can fill a hole for a couple of games but not a long term fix.

      I think that there will be some good benches around this season, Dogs will field a big pack and have good depth, even losing Ennis and Finucane.
       
    • Killer03

      Killer03 Well-Known Member

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      I do think depth is good this year, which is ironic since we seem to be written off every year for a number of reasons, and high on that list is always no depth!

      Whilst not ideal to lose key players, I believe in the short term we cover well.

      1. Snake (Hiku or Gutho)
      2. Wingers Galore....take your pick (Hiku, Gutho, Taufau, Wolf, Blair, Turbo)
      3. Centres (Hiku or Gutho I think would fill in admirably
      4. Halves (Killer will be a good replacement if DCE plays origin, plus JLJ, actually I think Gutho might be suited here)
      5. Props (good coverage, Mason, Lawrence, Starling, Turbo, Burgess)
      6. Workrate backrowers (Horo, Buhrer, Lui)
      7. Skilled Backrowers/Explosive Backrowers (Mateo, JSL, Leary - I agree with others, big year for Leary)
      8. Hookers (Hodges and Balli)

      To me it looks good. I like Snake being covered. I thought in 2011 with Hoppa the pressure was taken off him. He seemed to add a week to recovery time, because we didn't need to hurry him back, and that meant he came back fresher, fitter, and I think a point to prove that the young buck wasn't quite as good as him!
       
    • mickqld

      mickqld Sack Greenslime 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      .................No we don't. We're behind Souffs, Rorters,Dogs,Bonkos,Panffers, Parra.
       
    • Dan

      Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      • Ramrod

        Ramrod Well-Known Member

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        Pretty good selection.
        I'm a fan of using Fullbacks as wingers. Defensively a must in the modern game.
        With good players like Jorge's or Wolfy's inability to defuse bombs were telling and it costs us BIG games. Their days as Wingers should be numbered and they better adapt to playing Second Row or Centre or playing reserve grade.
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      • cherry_poppins

        cherry_poppins Well-Known Member

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        Well Wolfy and Jorge tackle or try to, not like P-Rex
         
      • Mals

        Mals Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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        Your constant death riding of Hiku is getting stale. Will you man up on this site when Hiku has a good game & acknowledge it?
         
      • bones

        bones Bones Knows Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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        I would have Blake Leary ahead of some of those you have listed.
         
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        • cherry_poppins

          cherry_poppins Well-Known Member

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          Depends on how many tries he lets in

          He let in 8 tries in the last 3 games last year by meekly swinging out an arm

          Potentially he lost us both the premiership and minor premiership with his defensive efforts
           
        • The Who

          The Who Well-Known Member

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          Easts have the greatest depth simply because they have the deepest pockets.
           
        • BOZO

          BOZO Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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          Yes we have the best culture in the comp
          we are the mighty Sea eagles !!! :)
           
        • Rodo

          Rodo Goldmember 2016 Tipping Competitor

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          Naturally we here are all going to think that Manly have the greatest depth, simply because we are Manly fans who discuss and read/hear reports on not just our main stay players but also our fringe, NYC and NSW cup players. IMHO I don't think Manly has the greatest depth this year but they will still be very competitive (more so than last year) should players be injured or called up for rep games.

          A number of other teams including the Panthers (who were very competitive last season when injuries struck many of their players) have strong depth and it's these teams that will go close to winning the competition this year.
           
        • PONTIAN SEA EAGLE

          PONTIAN SEA EAGLE Well-Known Member

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          Our backs lack a bit of pace that's my only concern.Our defence needs to tighten up a bit compared to the later part of last year.
           
        • Eagles2nv

          Eagles2nv New Team, New Beginnings 2016 Tipping Competitor

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          Our centre depth is the weakest, but not critical.

          If we lose Killer/skivvy we can move Hiku/Gutho to the Centre position and play wolf/blair/gutho on the wing.

          Also T-Red plays a decent centre and probably Mateo can play centre if needed. Tooves will be aware of this as it is tough losing Skivvy/killer for a few games.
           
        • flying sea eagle

          flying sea eagle Active Member

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          If we don't make the top 4 in reggies this year something is seriously wrong with how we treat our lower grade players regardless of the game plan! Every player except one has NRL experience!

          Gutherson
          Wolf man
          Blair
          Satini
          Williame
          Littlejohn
          Rudolph
          Vave
          Hodges
          Trbojevic
          Symonds
          Horo
          Sene-Lefao

          Hasson
          Chee-Kam
          Andrews
          Sao
           
        • Manly To Win!

          Manly To Win! Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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          Symonds and JSL won't be in NSW Cup, but I definitely agree we have no excuse not to do well there this year.
           
        • ManlyBacker

          ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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          If we lose Killer then I would be very worried. Everyone pencils him in to cover other major losses but I'm not sure we could cover him.

          There will be a catastrophic loss some time this season. It happens to every team almost every year. We have worked hard on recruitment via the youngsters and it is up to them to step up when called upon. That is what makes each new year so exciting for me, anticipating who can make a difference.
           
          Last edited: Feb 17, 2015
        • Ryan

          Ryan Well-Known Member

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          One thing I do know, is that we have an amazing roster 1 through 25. We have a great home ground (mainly because of the people), and an awesome / loyal supporter base overall. Those tough years just after Northern Eagles days paid the way for what we see today, and makes our quality and ability that much more enjoyable.

          Personally, I think we support the best team in the NRL.

          I know, I'm proud as punch when people ask me who I support. "Manly, straight up". I remember as an old Bears supporter, it used to be shoulders down, "Bears, but don't hold that against me". LOL.
          Ans as soon as people say, "Oh God, not MANLY", I always reply with, "well, someone has to support the winners, don't they. It's just the Aussie way for most people to support the underdog & losers, so you go ahead and keep supporting Westst Tigers".

          ;)
           
        • rifraff

          rifraff Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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          So the secret to Manly being more successful is to not be very successful.. I can see you have a point there. It works for Liverpool!
           

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