Defence

[Budgie]

Sea Eagles coaches gain valuable insight from Crusaders

Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Coach Anthony Seibold and Assistant Coach Jim Dymock gained an invaluable insight into the success of Super Rugby powerhouse club, the Crusaders, following a three-day trip to Christchurch with both clubs open and willing to share different learning experiences.

www.seaeagles.com.au

Key 'learning' (God I hate that term) from the article is that Jimmy Dymock (our defence coach, yes we had one) is going to share 'learnings' (🤮) with the Crusaders defence guy. Hope they're super brilliant at defence and the 'learnings' (🤮🤮) are strong toward us.

 

[mave]

2005 Tigers had better defence than we did at times last season.

Hope Dymock brought his pen and paper.

 

[eaglebuzz]

If we can get our defense to a top 4 standard then the premiership is on the table. I still think we need a better hooker but we can survive with Croker if we aren't leaking points.

 

[globaleagle]

Sea Eagles coaches gain valuable insight from Crusaders

Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Coach Anthony Seibold and Assistant Coach Jim Dymock gained an invaluable insight into the success of Super Rugby powerhouse club, the Crusaders, following a three-day trip to Christchurch with both clubs open and willing to share different learning experiences.

www.seaeagles.com.au

Key 'learning' (God I hate that term) from the article is that Jimmy Dymock (our defence coach, yes we had one) is going to share 'learnings' (🤮) with the Crusaders defence guy. Hope they're super brilliant at defence and the 'learnings' (🤮🤮) are strong toward us.

Admittedly I'm tired but I didn't see 'learnings' anywhere. I guess you're more powerful than you realise!

Showing good 'stickability' there (as who wants to say perserverance?)

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Sea Eagles coaches gain valuable insight from Crusaders

Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Coach Anthony Seibold and Assistant Coach Jim Dymock gained an invaluable insight into the success of Super Rugby powerhouse club, the Crusaders, following a three-day trip to Christchurch with both clubs open and willing to share different learning experiences.

www.seaeagles.com.au

Key 'learning' (God I hate that term) from the article is that Jimmy Dymock (our defence coach, yes we had one) is going to share 'learnings' (🤮) with the Crusaders defence guy. Hope they're super brilliant at defence and the 'learnings' (🤮🤮) are strong toward us.

Crusaders secret is they are allowed to use 15 defenders.

 

[sheridanstand78]

If we are any threat we MUST fix our defence. You cannot concede 21.7 points a game and hope to challenge.

The goal for this season has to be to reduce that to a minimum of 18 points a game.

The team has to get out of the awful habit of conceding points after giving away penalities and six agains. It was a massive problem and undid all the good work the team did in attack.

 

[maxta]

The structure of gameplay between union and League is vastly different and growing up playing both, I can 100% add Rugby League defenders 'were" far more advanced and superior in tackling ability....this has admittedly changed the past decade through all this wrestling where initial contact points are far higher to lock up the ball, but I'm a bit confused as to how Crusaders defensive patterns will help an NRL team ?
Anything is worth a try, even maybe training drills which would help that "on the spot" decicion making, but the truth about tackling is based around "effort and commitment", which has been the DNA for EVERY successful NRL team in history....maybe with the exception of the Tigers "harlem globetrotter " season

 

[The '47ers]

"Learnings" : watch David Gillespie, Ian Roberts, Steve Menzies, Steve Matai etc etc

 

[Seagles68]

Sea Eagles coaches gain valuable insight from Crusaders

Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Coach Anthony Seibold and Assistant Coach Jim Dymock gained an invaluable insight into the success of Super Rugby powerhouse club, the Crusaders, following a three-day trip to Christchurch with both clubs open and willing to share different learning experiences.

www.seaeagles.com.au

Key 'learning' (God I hate that term) from the article is that Jimmy Dymock (our defence coach, yes we had one) is going to share 'learnings' (🤮) with the Crusaders defence guy. Hope they're super brilliant at defence and the 'learnings' (🤮🤮) are strong toward us.

I was really worried when I read - You always get some good takeaways ....- thought I was going to see another photo of Siebs drunk and alseep at Macca's

 

[Tragic Eagle]

At least they are trying and looking outside of the box. I hope our defence improves.

 

[double hoops]

The structure of gameplay between union and League is vastly different and growing up playing both, I can 100% add Rugby League defenders 'were" far more advanced and superior in tackling ability....this has admittedly changed the past decade through all this wrestling where initial contact points are far higher to lock up the ball, but I'm a bit confused as to how Crusaders defensive patterns will help an NRL team ?
Anything is worth a try, even maybe training drills which would help that "on the spot" decicion making, but the truth about tackling is based around "effort and commitment", which has been the DNA for EVERY successful NRL team in history....maybe with the exception of the Tigers "harlem globetrotter " season

Mans defence in 25 could be interesting.

Dymock cant be seen as the issue.

Club have got onboard Henry Mander to help Jimmy fix our defence up.

A new role for Man of defence Analyst.

Not sure if he is related to Tim. But his back ground is Defence Analyst for the English Rah Rah lions.

Now a visit to view the the Crusaders Rah Rah defence.

We could be a little unconventional next year.

As long as they stop the other team scoring at all. It's all good.

 

[double hoops]

I wish they'd send Saab to spend the entire preseason with Carlton.

He won't ever learn to jump AND catch above his head.

But if he did.

 

[madmax]

I wish they'd send Saab to spend the entire preseason with Carlton.

He won't ever learn to jump AND catch above his head.

But if he did.

Ummmm Saab has jumped high & taken bombs on numerous occasions!

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I wish they'd send Saab to spend the entire preseason with Carlton.

He won't ever learn to jump AND catch above his head.

But if he did.

Yeah how many has that Rorters winger scored over the years , hundreds

 

[double hoops]

Ummmm Saab has jumped high & taken bombs on numerous occasions!

Not often enough for mine. He is one tall human and absolutely the fastest man in the game. But IMO is horrible in the air. Dosent use his string bean body one little bit. Struggles to get 2 inches off the ground, and occasionally jags a chest mark with his eyes shut.

Send him to Carlton. If Saab learnt to actually.jump and catch with his height and speed. No one is stopping that.

He's no where near the weapon he could be.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Mans defence in 25 could be interesting.

Dymock cant be seen as the issue.

Club have got onboard Henry Mander to help Jimmy fix our defence up.

A new role for Man of defence Analyst.

Not sure if he is related to Tim. But his back ground is Defence Analyst for the English Rah Rah lions.

Now a visit to view the the Crusaders Rah Rah defence.

We could be a little unconventional next year.

As long as they stop the other team scoring at all. It's all good.

Have you thought about trying your hand at Haiku?😉

 

[maxta]

Ummmm Saab has jumped high & taken bombs on numerous occasions!

I will never understand why Manly have only kicked cross field bombs 3 times that have landed in the right spot and Saab has scored 3 from 3.....WHY has this not been more of a weapon ??

 

[jbb/james]

I will never understand why Manly have only kicked cross field bombs 3 times that have landed in the right spot and Saab has scored 3 from 3.....WHY has this not been more of a weapon ??

Contested v uncontested kicks at manly is way to high. Having to give the catcher 10m is a defensive kick and uncontested

The kicks wide to saabs wing are nearly always too short or not high enough. Its epic how often it comes up empty

We probably try the dangerous kick from our own territory across field almost as often as a pinpoint kick on the goal line. What makes it worse is oku is pretty handy himself in the air and can outleap an opponent making it a tough assignment if we get the momentum and chase groove

Didnt chez and schuster do a kicking camp in AFL land 18 months back .

As mentioned above by hoops i reckon our kickers and wingers should all do sessions with AFL, especially with these drop punt friendly footies these days. The storm wingers and kickers are a very dangerous way to end a basic set. Coates is outstanding as a threat

 

[maxta]

Contested v uncontested kicks at manly is way to high. Having to give the catcher 10m is a defensive kick and uncontested

The kicks wide to saabs wing are nearly always too short or not high enough. Its epic how often it comes up empty

We probably try the dangerous kick from our own territory across field almost as often as a pinpoint kick on the goal line. What makes it worse is oku is pretty handy himself in the air and can outleap an opponent making it a tough assignment if we get the momentum and chase groove

Didnt chez and schuster do a kicking camp in AFL land 18 months back .

As mentioned above by hoops i reckon our kickers and wingers should all do sessions with AFL, especially with these drop punt friendly footies these days. The storm wingers and kickers are a very dangerous way to end a basic set. Coates is outstanding as a threat

Definitely correct, most land 5-10m out, Saab wins it and has to toss it back inside....when on the spot has scored...
The times Saab has lost it is near his own tryline, under pressure after being belted a few times trying to do the ugly runs off the try line and loses confidence when the next ball is in the air

 

[silvereagle]

I will never understand why Manly have only kicked cross field bombs 3 times that have landed in the right spot and Saab has scored 3 from 3.....WHY has this not been more of a weapon ??

This was one of the three big reasons I reluctantly gave Seibs a fail in 24. The other two reasons related firstly to an inability of the coaching staff to create workable game plans around getting Tolu out in the open (kick throughs, chips, cut-outs etc) and secondly, around our right side defence. Not rocket science so should nail these issues in 25. If the case, we score more and stop more tries in 25 v 24. Look forward to seeing this!!