stoodamire
Bencher
Alternative headline:
Why can’t DCE win us games without our 4 best attacking players and 75% of his usual spine combo.
Why can’t DCE win us games without our 4 best attacking players and 75% of his usual spine combo.
Alternative headline:
Why can’t DCE win us games without our 4 best attacking players and 75% of his usual spine combo.
Because the opposition have figured out his game plan of run slowly to the right or left and hand the ball to someone else. The other teams are just to smart for him.Alternative headline:
Why can’t DCE win us games without our 4 best attacking players and 75% of his usual spine combo.
I think a more accurate description would be opposition have figured out we don't have a 6, Levi is not threat at all from hooker, and then if you take out Tom all they have to do is stack defence on DCE. Crocker is not going to do anything, Levi is predictable, Garrick is not threat at Full back, Funa is soft, thank God we have Suli back.Because the opposition have figured out his game plan of run slowly to the right or left and hand the ball to someone else. The other teams are just to smart for him.
I agree. We are somewhat losing in our team selections.I think a more accurate description would be opposition have figured out we don't have a 6, Levi is not threat at all from hooker, and then if you take out Tom all they have to do is stack defence on DCE. Crocker is not going to do anything, Levi is predictable, Garrick is not threat at Full back, Funa is soft, thank God we have Suli back.
I get the critism if Manly's towards were Rolling forward getting off loads and quick play the balls, a smart hooker drawing the markers, back rowers punching through the line, a 5/8 who would also be a threat - even someone line Blake Green and DCE was still playing ****!?
But look at the players around him, they are rubbish!! We have no impact off the bench either. I'm fine with DCE, he's not why we are not winning games. We have no 1, 6 and 9 and too many reserve grade forwards.
Yep, some strange selections? I would entertain your positional changes above.I agree. We are somewhat losing in our team selections.
Levi, Paseka and Gosiewski should be gone on form. Start Croker at 9, Cust at 6, Boyle to bench. I'd even say Metcalfe to Fullback and Garrick to wing. Atleast Metcalfe is a threat with the ball. We seen with Gutho how important it is to have a ball playing fullback. Or atleast Metcalfe/Schuster to bench.
As you mentioned we have very limited options in the current team selected. We have the players but they are either not selected or selected out of position
Dce is better than Hunt and Milford and ash taylor and Nikorima. And other marquee halves.
Is he the best? Not on form but he is clearly clutch. How long did JT struggle without a gun side around him? His whole career at the cowboys. With a good, in form team DCE will shine again.
Exactly - Thurston was Cowboys, Australian & Queensland half for how many years?
How many premierships did he win in that time?
One.
How many of those years were the Cowboys considered a top 4 team?
Not many.
Dce is better than Hunt and Milford and ash taylor and Nikorima. And other marquee halves.
Is he the best? Not on form but he is clearly clutch. How long did JT struggle without a gun side around him? His whole career at the cowboys. With a good, in form team DCE will shine again.
This is my take on it, it seems most of the time Dylan and DCE were coached to run it on the last and be better off tackled with the ball 5m out then risk a restart on the 20m and 7 tackles.I am not sure an in-form or out-of-form team has anything to do with Cherry's poor quality kicking. That is my biggest disappointment with his game this year. Be it a short stab kick in the opposition 20 or a long clearing kick from our half or be it a simple bomb. I don't know how a top quality player like Cherry can loose this part of his game with such regularity and consistency. Kicking has always been a massive part of the game but in todays game is a must have to have any chance of winning. Fingers crossed and lets see how he goes today. He can only improve surely.
He didn't say he was no good, he just said overrated.Do you think any player that plays for Manly is any good?
The length of a piece of string is exactly double the length of its midde to one end.How long's a piece of string?
If you have a look at all the sides above us on the ladder they have reasonable spines that have have options in attack from most of the positions.
Have a look at our current spine and then the likes of Paeska and Jetski running the ball up.
Even throwing a player like API into 9 would transform dce, then a fit Tom at the back, Walker running the left side attack, Faniu coming on with a tired defence. Such a difference.
Will be interesting to see how they rebound this week. Will need a small miracle to win with today's team
Good string theoryThe length of a piece of string is exactly double the length of its midde to one end.
I think Levi's impact is overstated in this area, we are much better now in getting lateral early crisp ball to the halves like the Ballin years.(who was never really an engage the markers hooker---nor did we have much go forward penetration back in those years and used lateral spreads to the edges for Matai,Lyon and Watmough to make the yards). Most of Manly's attack came off the forwards rolling forward through the middle last year. Manly were ranked number one in this department. Marty and AFB rarely get taken to the ground either and usually take 3 defenders to stop them. Problem this year is a hooker which has no footy smarts. Can throw a ok flat pass but that is really ineffective today's game, need to engage defence first. Also feel we are missing impact off the bench, Jetski and Paeska really offering not much, and missing the impact of Faniu off the bench too. Surprised not too see a sipley type get a go
We are not playing as straight at times with forwards not running in numbers, plus being a new hooker sometimes he takes the safe route too often(in passing) and not backing himself to run/being selfish.(or does it at the wrong times in a way that feels he is only doing so because he was told to do so, not by natural feel the game instinct)Cleary was just saying how much Api has allowed him to open his game up by drawing the markets and giving him quality ball. DCEs form is greatly affected by Levi in my opinion. I hope Danny can improve, otherwise it might be a long year for our halves.
Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
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8 | 7 | 1 | 109 | 16 | |
9 | 7 | 2 | 72 | 16 | |
8 | 7 | 1 | 56 | 16 | |
9 | 6 | 3 | 57 | 14 | |
10 | 6 | 4 | 58 | 12 | |
9 | 5 | 4 | -14 | 12 | |
10 | 5 | 4 | 31 | 11 | |
9 | 5 | 4 | 95 | 10 | |
9 | 4 | 5 | 19 | 10 | |
9 | 4 | 5 | -16 | 8 | |
9 | 4 | 5 | -19 | 8 | |
9 | 4 | 5 | -70 | 8 | |
9 | 3 | 6 | -71 | 8 | |
9 | 3 | 5 | 11 | 7 | |
8 | 2 | 6 | -63 | 6 | |
8 | 1 | 7 | -89 | 4 | |
8 | 1 | 7 | -166 | 4 |