Yes but the club also needs more than just businessmen, administrators and PR gurus. It needs 'good blokes' who also have top level league experience and a strong history with Manly.
Darryl Williams
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vidmar
Bencher
Sorry for the long post but I’m answering several points raised above…?
For those still not sure - The MWSE board and its set up is not really complicated if you understand that the club has “4 ownersâ€
2 privately owned companies (Quantum and Penn Sports) and the Leagues Club and Football Clubs (that are member owned.)
The MWSE club has a board of directors that manage the club (The “Sea Eagles†NRL Franchise if you like) and is made up of representatives of the 4 owners.
That is why the “Sack the board†or the “Board must go†posts are nonsensical – no board - means no owners - means no money - means no team?
Although a person may represent one of the owners at the MWSE board table they don’t necessarily need to be a director or owner of the entity they are representing (But of course the owners wouldn’t just choose any old random to be there on their behalf!)
One thing that has been overlooked during this whole saga (and worth remembering!) is that that the people who own the club or represent the owners or sit on the various boards are supporters as well – they wouldn’t be putting cash, time and effort if they weren’t?
Matabele - I wondered if there was a reason for your original post...but again it appears to be of a vexatious nature – however, in the spirit of trying to keep the forum positive - here goes…..
See here the reason for his involvement: http://www.silvertails.net/news/5977-new-eagles-peacemaker
I’d suggest his credentials as posted above would show he has ample ability and background in senior RL positions (often in a very political landscape) to cover the role.
Remember it is not a job per se but a volunteer role?
MWSE board meetings are generally held once a month (or as needed)
There have been calls for more player and ex-player involvement so I’d like to think that his involvement was as a result of those comments?
Vacancies and appointments such as this are covered in the Leagues Club constitution.
Tookey – Peter Spray (Who is the CEO of the Leagues Club) was previously appointed to represent them at MWSE level – so Darrell now fulfils that role (but as mentioned is not on the board of the Leagues Club).
Re your questions re player and coaching staff contracts – sorry, as I’m not fully in the picture on the full terms and conditions of the people mentioned I don’t feel comfortable in making statements about them on a public forum.
Players and coaching staff are employed by the MWSE (not the Football Club) so they would be best placed to make any comments re that?
Canteen Worker – The representatives of the FC and LC are selected by the respective boards (as per the constitution – 25.2 in the case of the FC)
Re Zorba – he will join the FC board at the next AGM – there may be times (as there are with his current role on the Leagues Club board) when it apparent that he would have a conflict of interest on some matters and absent himself from discussions or abstain from voting – I can’t give specifics but, again, these aspects are covered in the constitution and it is something that Peter would be fully aware of.
For those still not sure - The MWSE board and its set up is not really complicated if you understand that the club has “4 ownersâ€
2 privately owned companies (Quantum and Penn Sports) and the Leagues Club and Football Clubs (that are member owned.)
The MWSE club has a board of directors that manage the club (The “Sea Eagles†NRL Franchise if you like) and is made up of representatives of the 4 owners.
That is why the “Sack the board†or the “Board must go†posts are nonsensical – no board - means no owners - means no money - means no team?
Although a person may represent one of the owners at the MWSE board table they don’t necessarily need to be a director or owner of the entity they are representing (But of course the owners wouldn’t just choose any old random to be there on their behalf!)
One thing that has been overlooked during this whole saga (and worth remembering!) is that that the people who own the club or represent the owners or sit on the various boards are supporters as well – they wouldn’t be putting cash, time and effort if they weren’t?
Matabele - I wondered if there was a reason for your original post...but again it appears to be of a vexatious nature – however, in the spirit of trying to keep the forum positive - here goes…..
See here the reason for his involvement: http://www.silvertails.net/news/5977-new-eagles-peacemaker
I’d suggest his credentials as posted above would show he has ample ability and background in senior RL positions (often in a very political landscape) to cover the role.
Remember it is not a job per se but a volunteer role?
MWSE board meetings are generally held once a month (or as needed)
There have been calls for more player and ex-player involvement so I’d like to think that his involvement was as a result of those comments?
Vacancies and appointments such as this are covered in the Leagues Club constitution.
Tookey – Peter Spray (Who is the CEO of the Leagues Club) was previously appointed to represent them at MWSE level – so Darrell now fulfils that role (but as mentioned is not on the board of the Leagues Club).
Re your questions re player and coaching staff contracts – sorry, as I’m not fully in the picture on the full terms and conditions of the people mentioned I don’t feel comfortable in making statements about them on a public forum.
Players and coaching staff are employed by the MWSE (not the Football Club) so they would be best placed to make any comments re that?
Canteen Worker – The representatives of the FC and LC are selected by the respective boards (as per the constitution – 25.2 in the case of the FC)
Re Zorba – he will join the FC board at the next AGM – there may be times (as there are with his current role on the Leagues Club board) when it apparent that he would have a conflict of interest on some matters and absent himself from discussions or abstain from voting – I can’t give specifics but, again, these aspects are covered in the constitution and it is something that Peter would be fully aware of.
voicefromthehill
Bencher
Why would volunteering = low levels of expectation? I actually have higher expectation as it is evident that he feels passionately or strongly enough to give up his time for the club.
Matabele
Journey Man
As my last post indicates I'm satisfied with this situation now Vidmar has provided clarification. It doesn't hurt to ask does it?
It means narks like me can cut him some slack, because as you suggest he is giving up his time for the benefit of the club.
voicefromthehill said:
It means narks like me can cut him some slack, because as you suggest he is giving up his time for the benefit of the club.
voicefromthehill
Bencher
Ok understand your P.O.V
Jesus Matas, volunteering doesn't mean something less than professional. There's no 'slack' to cut. Mate, the way you qualify everything corrupts what your point is. You insinuate Williams, by volunteering his services, may not provide a 'complete' service, thereby lessening any critisism that you might send his way. I'm sure Williams would not want to be condescended to as such. Be positive. Leave the nark. It's no good. Trust me
That may be as you see it, and may be as it is in your organization, but there are many people out there volunteering their services in a professional manner and would resent the implication. Let's see how Williams goes, without discounting his 'volunteer' status, before you get the knife out, metaphorically speaking. OK?
Matabele
Journey Man
I don't have the knife out Mr Conspiracy Theory.
Volunteerism is excellent, noble and essential to the economy. Very often the volunteer will out perform an employee, but from the perspective of management there are different requirements, particularly when it comes to compulsion.
Williams will hopefully do a fine job.
Volunteerism is excellent, noble and essential to the economy. Very often the volunteer will out perform an employee, but from the perspective of management there are different requirements, particularly when it comes to compulsion.
Williams will hopefully do a fine job.
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