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Crusher: Agony could have been avoided

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by ManlyBacker, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. ManlyBacker

    ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

    +972 /7
    NOEL "Crusher" Cleal shakes his head in disbelief. The burnt friendships, the accusations of betrayal.

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  2. sheridanstand78

    sheridanstand78 Well-Known Member

    +4,867 /73
    You sold your soul to one of our biggest enemies. Just go Crusher!
  3. Moops

    Moops Well-Known Member

    +520 /35
    Is it part of Des' defence that the people that followed him say that they were not pressured or asked by him to go? What else are they gonna say? Sheesh!!!
  4. God

    God Well-Known Member

    +487 /12
    He called them "Manly People" but he should stop doing that now that they are all "Dogs"
  5. voicefromthehill

    voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +1,608 /13
    I'm not sure why it is a problem that Perry would say he leads the contract negotiations, he is the boss. It is common when large contracts are in question that "the boss" gets involved - I am certain that Greenberg does the same and am sure I have read articles supporting that. Sounding more and more like precious petals.
  6. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +6,440 /192
    Bet the dogs love the part where he refers to those going to the dogs as Manly people.
  7. Frogz

    Frogz Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +1,933 /43
    Bye Bye Crusher....You are a DOG now....you go and lay in your kennel with the other traitors.
  8. pags

    pags Member

    +5 /0
    "We are Manly people but we are professionals. Like everybody, we have to pay the bills." I'm sure he said he could earn more money at our club.
  9. tookey

    tookey Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +5,798 /186
    You people are unbelivebale.

    5 weeks ago Des and crusher were gods on the northen beaches and now you all can't wait for them to leave. Has there ever been a more sucessful time in the clubs history than when these 2 were in charge?

    Read the article. It is clear that both Des and crusher wanted to stay but were forced out by the actions of certain board members. They should hang their heads in shame today as should all of you who are bagging them both.

    I will await your comments in the new couple of years when the dogs hold up the premiership trophy.
  10. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +3,894 /65
    You sending those sentiments on to Ken Arthurson as well ?

  11. Crusher_Cleal

    Crusher_Cleal Well-Known Member

    +762 /21
    I may have to change my name...
  12. WAMF

    WAMF Well-Known Member

    +408 /0
    So I take it that Greenberg won't be negotiating with any player at the bulldogs. It will be just Des and Cleal?
  13. Volley

    Volley Well-Known Member

    +1,109 /54
    Well why don't they tell us exactly what went down? So maybe change can occur?

    The way they've gone about it is clearly not going to help the situation at all. 4 days after the Grand Final. They've shat in every supporter's mouth; it's no wonder they're copping it from fans, and the real issues at Board level are going unnoticed because these two won't put their real reasons forward.

    Ohh no, the COO wants to conduct contract negotiations.
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    • voicefromthehill

      voicefromthehill Well-Known Member Premium Member

      +1,608 /13

      I made the same point earlier - In fact I remember Greenberg was heavily involved in negotiations when Hannant went to the club. Sounds more like an excuse to me
    • Moondog

      Moondog What's up Darth? Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +5,283 /51
      Don't want them anywhere near our trophy!
    • bob dylan

      bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +6,440 /192

      It look them 5 years to work their plan at Manly, the Dogs wont wait that long.

      If they dont win in 2012 (which they wont because they have a crap team) 2013 or 2014 they will be sacked and accused of being Manly scum who took their money.

      Its called "The Canterbury Way" ask Kevin Moore and Steve Folkes how it works.
    • lsz

      lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +4,851 /102
      Crusher states interference as a reason why he left

      If the clubs recruitment / results went south would the board be held responsible? I say no. We have lost the most successful coaching team in recent years and the board is not accountable.

      Poor management created the situation we are in(even it was initially giving Des and Crusher too much control)

      Yes Des could handle it better but i refuse to believe such a mass defection could have resulted if there was not inherit dissatisfaction
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      • eagle-rock08

        eagle-rock08 Active Member

        +70 /0
        All this seems to me to be a way of justifying actions that I think they may already be regretting.

        I'm going to the dogs because this person or that person did this etc etc etc.

        I would have stayed but this person or that person didn't do such and such.

        Just go quietly boys and I do mean QUIETLY and don't let the door hit you on your bums on the way out.

        I'm well over you all.

        What's that old saying? 'If you sleep with dogs you may wake up with fleas.'
      • ayjay007

        ayjay007 Well-Known Member

        +83 /0
        Cleal may have been the recruitment manager,but who signs the contract?The player and him,or the player and the COO?I would have thoought that the COO signed anything to do with players $$$s.
      • Brookie4eva

        Brookie4eva Well-Known Member

        +213 /2
        Leaving Des and Crusher to have total control of recruitment also lead to the alleged get-out clauses in some players contracts, this is why senior management should have some involvement in the process.

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