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Crocker style tackle will be punished in Test

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Matabele, Oct 5, 2007.

  1. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

    +511 /14
    Am I blind? They say Crocker's chest (not shoulder) connected with Stewart????????

    MICHAEL Crocker was just millimetres away from a lengthy suspension for his tackle on Brett Stewart as the Manly fullback fielded a towering Greg Inglis torpedo bomb in last Sunday's grand final, and any player whose shoulder connects with an opponent's head in similar circumstances during the coming Test in Wellington faces sanctions.

    The warning comes as players in the Australian and New Zealand teams prepare for the tactic to be employed in the October 14 Test at Westpac Stadium, a venue renowned for its swirling winds. Crocker's sensational 44th-minute hit prematurely ended Stewart's grand final and helped Melbourne to premiership glory.

    With Kiwis five-eighth Ben Roberts suggesting in yesterday's Herald that Stewart could expect to have his nerves tested by some similar high kicks, Storm and Kangaroos captain Cameron Smith admitted the ploy was "a pretty good weapon" and predicted New Zealand fullback Krisnan Inu would be wary if Inglis came in off the wing to hoist a bomb for him to catch.

    Australian lock Paul Gallen, a renowned enforcer, said he would be leading the chase if Inglis put up such a kick for Inu. The Kangaroos also have Crocker in their line-up.

    "We might as well use it if it's there," Smith said. "It's a pretty good weapon and it's worked for us in the last few games we've played. We might have to get Greggy in from the wing if we're about 30 metres out, like we were the other night, and get him to put one up. If he [Inu] was watching the other night, he might just let it bounce."

    Gallen, one of eight debutants in the Australia side, said he was anticipating a fiery Test and revealed that he and Cronulla teammate Luke Covell - selected for the Kiwis - had sent each other congratulatory text messages before vowing not to talk to each other until after the match.

    "Cov is pretty rock solid under a high ball so we'd probably be better off aiming them at someone else, but they are unbelievable, those big torpedo bombs," ," Gallen said. "It gives chasers plenty of time to get through and put pressure on the catcher, so we I think we'll have to get Greg in to put a few up."

    But it is a fine line and the NRL's match review committee only cleared Crocker of any wrongdoing after finding that his chest made contact with Stewart's head - and not the Storm second-rower's shoulder.

    Regardless of debate about whether players should be able to shoulder charge an opponent fielding a kick, the cause of Stewart's concussion was a head clash with Melbourne fullback Billy Slater, who was also involved in the tackle.

    If Stewart had been in the air at the time of impact, Crocker would also have found himself in trouble.

    Inglis said he had been toying with torpedo bombs since he was a kid growing up in Macksville on the NSW mid-north coast, and used it for the first time at NRL level in a finals match against the Cowboys during the 2005 season.

    But it wasn't until Melbourne coach Craig Bellamy witnessed him launch one at training just before this year's play-offs that the tactic became part of the Storm's kicking arsenal.

    "It had a few rotations on it but anyone can do it, it's not that hard," Inglis said. "I've been mucking around doing it in training for a while. Then Bellyache [Bellamy] pulled me aside and said, 'Hey, do you want to do it in a game?'. I said, 'Yeah, I'll give it ago'. It was the last game of the year."

    Meanwhile, the Rugby League International Federation yesterday cleared Parramatta's Fuifui Moimoi and Wests Tigers' Taniela Tuiaki to play for NZ.

    But they are now ineligible to represent Tonga in next year's World Cup, which will officially kick off with the opening ceremony at Sydney Football Stadium before Australia play New Zealand on October 26.

    The RLIF also accepted a request that Nigel Vagana, Tony Puletua and Iafeta Paleaaesina be allowed to play for Samoa.

    And Paul Simpkins yesterday became the second leading NRL referee after Steve Clark to announce his retirement. Simpkins, who will return to the NSW Police Force, was the fourth-most capped referee in the game's history. He controlled 284 first-grade matches, five State of Origins, four Tests and the 2006 grand final.
  2. Dan

    Dan Kim Jong Dan Staff Member Administrator 2017 Tipping Competitor 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +7,347 /111
    just another case of the conspiracy.

    Melbourne winning the GF was needed just like in 97 with Newcastle
  3. Sherlock

    Sherlock Member

    +1 /0
    News Limited wanted to see some more of their investment back.
  4. fLIP

    fLIP UFO Hunter

    +1,140 /28
    This type of stuff makes my blood boil.
  5. The Gronk

    The Gronk Well-Known Member

    +37 /0
    thats up there with the roy masters article saying that melbourne are the new fibros
  6. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

    +511 /14
    Brett Stewart was gritting his teeth when forced to cuddle Crocker for the cameras yesterday.
  7. CliffyIsGod

    CliffyIsGod Well-Known Member

    +106 /2
    The bigger issue is how the **** did Gallen get in the side infront of Watmough?

    Choc makes the GF, backrower of the year and Gallen and his wooden spoon Sharks go nowhere.
  8. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member

    +516 /0
    The plan is to hoist the ball up and then have two guys run through and absolutely smash the receiver just after he's caught the ball with absolutely no protection whatsoever and no chance to avoid getting smashed. The intent therefore is to injure, or smash the guy out of the game. Great going NRL, now that sort of play is officially endorsed. Mums and dads take note and maybe steer the little guy towards a game where the idea is to play with the ball and not take each others heads off. I love naked brutality over skill.
  9. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +3,445 /48
    If the roles were reversed, and say it had been Matai or Watmough that put this tackle on, i wonder what sort of articles we would be reading this week.

    Almost as diabolical for me is 2 weeks for eye gouging. Ridge did a similar thing, not as bad imo, when playing for the Warriors, and got 8 weeks for it
  10. toovs

    toovs Member

    +0 /0
    they are a bunch of **** wits the lots of them
  11. Sherlock

    Sherlock Member

    +1 /0
    15 missed tackles.
  12. nodd

    nodd Well-Known Member

    +105 /5
    F@#$ me. Are we talking about rugby league here or F@#$ing netball.
  13. mcatt

    mcatt Active Member

    +62 /0
    That just proves that the intention was never to put pressure on the fullback, but to take the player out. Manly didn't drop one of those bombs all night, the only negaive for Manly and positive for Melbourne was that our best player was taken out. Therefore I'm guessing by Smith saying "It's a pretty good weapon and it worked for us in the last few games" he must be saying that they intentionally set out to take Stewart out of the game (which is what all Manly fans have been arguing since it happened), otherwise why was it successful, I thought Stewart and Robertson handled them well. What a grubby team they have turned into.
  14. nodd

    nodd Well-Known Member

    +105 /5
    Yes! That is the general idea and it worked.

    Why didn't we try a similar tactic? Because our forwards were scared and didn't have the ticker to take anyone out.
  15. Jethro

    Jethro This space is for rent Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +2,164 /11
    As I have wrote over at MSE, as far as I can see, Ricky Stuart doesn't like Choc and hasn't since that SOO incident with BK a couple of years ago when Stuart was SOO Coach. IMO (and I hope that I'm wrong) whilst Ricky Stuart is the Australian Coach, Choc (just like Eric Grothe Jnr) will never be picked in the Australian team (no matter how successful he may be or what accolades he receives) because Ricky Stuart is a grudge holder (in my opinion) who needs to get over it and himself.
  16. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member

    +214 /5
    Choc had his worst game for ions in the GF. He missed important tackles including two that led to soft tries. If the GF was the final trial you would have to say that he blew his chance. He has been huge all year but picked a bad night to play lower than at his best (or carry an injury??)

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