Cooper Johns Shown the Door
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Cooper came home to Manly on a train and trial and did well early on, 'player of the pre-season tournament' and filled in for the injured Schu in our big opening round win over the Dogs, also played 5/8 when we belted the Storm. But then we had 3 losses in which (as very quickly happens in NRL) the opposition targeted the weaker parts of his game.
To Seibold's credit he saw that would continue and in May he quickly pounced to sign Jake Arthur. I thought that pretty much sealed Johns's fate at Manly so no shock at all we aren't keeping him.
But I too wish him well. Seems a good guy and does have talent, probably needs to add a bit of muscle somehow. Luke Keary is the only one I can think of with such a scrawny build who has done well in NRL over any extended period. (Sam Walker is another but the Chooks are persevering so far because he is exceptional with the ball.)
To Seibold's credit he saw that would continue and in May he quickly pounced to sign Jake Arthur. I thought that pretty much sealed Johns's fate at Manly so no shock at all we aren't keeping him.
But I too wish him well. Seems a good guy and does have talent, probably needs to add a bit of muscle somehow. Luke Keary is the only one I can think of with such a scrawny build who has done well in NRL over any extended period. (Sam Walker is another but the Chooks are persevering so far because he is exceptional with the ball.)
I was discussing this with the daughter the other day. She follows him around on all the social media platforms and has often sent stuff he has done or said to me. His talent definitely lies in the entertainment industry. He’s a cheeky little bugger, but not in a smart arse way. And he does seem to have a good rapport with current players. Good luck to him. As you said, no point busting up your body (especially when it rivals a starving Kelpie) for 120k.
manly al
First Grader
Can still or does have the opportunity to finish his brief Manly stay on a good note with Blacktown .
Quite a reasonable type footy player just on the fundamentals and footy skill level , just a bit down on the more robust requirements especially in defence
On the margins at i st grade level but has shown a couple of good touches .
Could well be a type of player suited for the U K Super League if he wants to still focus on a footy career .
Can only help any ongoing League involvement with a good showing and guiding Blacktown as far as possible in their final play offs stint .
Quite a reasonable type footy player just on the fundamentals and footy skill level , just a bit down on the more robust requirements especially in defence
On the margins at i st grade level but has shown a couple of good touches .
Could well be a type of player suited for the U K Super League if he wants to still focus on a footy career .
Can only help any ongoing League involvement with a good showing and guiding Blacktown as far as possible in their final play offs stint .
Could probably pick up a decent wage playing top grade in England.
Good footballer but not enough size and not enough speed to compensate for lack of size in first grade. Great personality and appears to be a good bloke. Best of luck to him.
TheSoaringEagle2023
Bencher
I never understood the signing of Johns in the first place.
Fualalo, Matterson, Toby, Weekes, Humphries are better fringe players.
Fualalo, Matterson, Toby, Weekes, Humphries are better fringe players.
None of those aside from Weekes had ever played a single NRL game. And Weekes only had 2 on the bench and one at fullback. Zero in the halves.
Johns had 10 NRL games under his belt with Melbourne as starting halfback or 5/8, winning most of those games. Given we were going with a rookie 5/8 (Schu) I think it made good sense to have a back-up half with at least some NRL experience. (Which is also why when Cooper's shortcomings were exposed we signed Arthur.)
TheSoaringEagle2023
Bencher
10 NRL games in like 4 years isn't exactly a stellar resume, if anything it already shows that he isn't up to it.
Well you aren't going to get a halfback with a stellar resume to play Blacktown and fill in for DCE during Origin.
TheSoaringEagle2023
Bencher
I think you won't know unless you give them a chance to prove themselves. Johns has had 4 years and now he's been let go even though he's a minimum wage player.
I don't understand the rationale as having played a few NRL games somehow makes you that much better than a guy who hasn't been given a chance.
I would bet my bottom dollar that Fualalo would be a better player than Johns, I cant see Johns scoring 20 or 30 something Tries in reserve grade.
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Our Legendary Godfather Showed No Sentiment to good likeable young fellows that were not good enough to win premierships in his Ruthless Results driven Manly Rein of Success
Good luck to Cooper . Maybe his likeable ways could pave the way to the fox studio arena with his dad . Other nice likeable Manly guys like Parker and Woods should join him on a full time basis
The moral of the story ....
You have to be cruel to be kind to your club
and our Ruthless Premiership Reining Godfather was one of a Wining kind
The '47ers
Your resident two-headed Queenslander
Hull FC reportedly find Jake Clifford replacement in shape of Manly Sea Eagles half-back
Hull FC are set to secure their Jake Clifford replacement for 2024 in the shape of Manly Sea Eagles half-back Cooper Johns.
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Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
Good luck Cooper and enjoy your time in England.
Harsh thread title. Johns did his best and we knew what we were getting when we signed him. So if there is to be real criticism here then it should be aimed at the people who signed him not the player. So showing him the door is harsh he was always a short term signing.
Hull FC reportedly find Jake Clifford replacement in shape of Manly Sea Eagles half-back
Hull FC are set to secure their Jake Clifford replacement for 2024 in the shape of Manly Sea Eagles half-back Cooper Johns.
I reckon he will carve out a decent career over there. Good luck to him.
Rocky
Bencher
I hope you are right. I'm just not sure he is physically good enough on defence to have a long career, even in England.
CRPSI eagle
Reserve Grader
Absolute rubbish player and potentially robbed someone an opportunity a crack in 1st grade who deserved a chance. Glad to see the back of him.
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