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Winging it
THE pay-television industry has given the strongest indication yet that it believes price expectations for the next NRL broadcast rights are overheated.
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Masked Eagle said:I think people are delusional if you think the game can survive with FTA TV money only. What makes you think the NRL is different to every single other major sporting code in the world where this type of income stream is extremely important to their survival?
Why did Foxtel pay bigger dollars for the AFL contract? Because they believe its worth more subscriptions to them. As for league, sure they will pay more because of the results but they aren't going to go nuts when there isn't the scope for growth, especially when there is no competition for them. League will still be on Foxtel, so don't worry about cancelling your subscriptions just yet.
Speaking of delusional, everyone moans about CH9 but your halfway to the nuthouse if you think CHs 7 or 10 will do a better job. If you don't want to watch live footy campaign all you like FTA to take over, because the only way FTA networks can recoup the outlay is ads.
Cletus said:Masked Eagle said:I think people are delusional if you think the game can survive with FTA TV money only. What makes you think the NRL is different to every single other major sporting code in the world where this type of income stream is extremely important to their survival?
Why did Foxtel pay bigger dollars for the AFL contract? Because they believe its worth more subscriptions to them. As for league, sure they will pay more because of the results but they aren't going to go nuts when there isn't the scope for growth, especially when there is no competition for them. League will still be on Foxtel, so don't worry about cancelling your subscriptions just yet.
Speaking of delusional, everyone moans about CH9 but your halfway to the nuthouse if you think CHs 7 or 10 will do a better job. If you don't want to watch live footy campaign all you like FTA to take over, because the only way FTA networks can recoup the outlay is ads.
The growth argument is complete bollocks. League provides roughly 50%more subscribers than the AFL yet gets paid half as much. The only reason they can trot out that line and not get laughed at is because there is no viable competitor for Foxtel, they're a monopoly. If they did have a competitor who do you think would get paid more, League that provides 50% more subscribeers currently, or AFL which might provide the same as League in 5 years time?
Masked Eagle said:pCletus said:Masked Eagle said:I think people are delusional if you think the game can survive with FTA TV money only. What makes you think the NRL is different to every single other major sporting code in the world where this type of income stream is extremely important to their survival?
Why did Foxtel pay bigger dollars for the AFL contract? Because they believe its worth more subscriptions to them. As for league, sure they will pay more because of the results but they aren't going to go nuts when there isn't the scope for growth, especially when there is no competition for them. League will still be on Foxtel, so don't worry about cancelling your subscriptions just yet.
Speaking of delusional, everyone moans about CH9 but your halfway to the nuthouse if you think CHs 7 or 10 will do a better job. If you don't want to watch live footy campaign all you like FTA to take over, because the only way FTA networks can recoup the outlay is ads.
The growth argument is complete bollocks. League provides roughly 50%more subscribers than the AFL yet gets paid half as much. The only reason they can trot out that line and not get laughed at is because there is no viable competitor for Foxtel, they're a monopoly. If they did have a competitor who do you think would get paid more, League that provides 50% more subscribeers currently, or AFL which might provide the same as League in 5 years time?
The only thing thats complete bullocks is your use of statistics. Foxtel wanted a better deal for AFL because they believe it will help with subscriptions. They would argue that most Rugby League supporters who would want Foxtel for League already would have it, so outlaying a massive increase isn't going to see the return. Never fear Foxtel will pay more than they currently are paying, but saying we should ditch them because they will pay more for AFL is the definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face and would only hurt the game in the long run.
Cletus said:Masked Eagle said:pCletus said:Masked Eagle said:I think people are delusional if you think the game can survive with FTA TV money only. What makes you think the NRL is different to every single other major sporting code in the world where this type of income stream is extremely important to their survival?
Why did Foxtel pay bigger dollars for the AFL contract? Because they believe its worth more subscriptions to them. As for league, sure they will pay more because of the results but they aren't going to go nuts when there isn't the scope for growth, especially when there is no competition for them. League will still be on Foxtel, so don't worry about cancelling your subscriptions just yet.
Speaking of delusional, everyone moans about CH9 but your halfway to the nuthouse if you think CHs 7 or 10 will do a better job. If you don't want to watch live footy campaign all you like FTA to take over, because the only way FTA networks can recoup the outlay is ads.
The growth argument is complete bollocks. League provides roughly 50%more subscribers than the AFL yet gets paid half as much. The only reason they can trot out that line and not get laughed at is because there is no viable competitor for Foxtel, they're a monopoly. If they did have a competitor who do you think would get paid more, League that provides 50% more subscribeers currently, or AFL which might provide the same as League in 5 years time?
The only thing thats complete bullocks is your use of statistics. Foxtel wanted a better deal for AFL because they believe it will help with subscriptions. They would argue that most Rugby League supporters who would want Foxtel for League already would have it, so outlaying a massive increase isn't going to see the return. Never fear Foxtel will pay more than they currently are paying, but saying we should ditch them because they will pay more for AFL is the definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face and would only hurt the game in the long run.
It's exactly the same argument they used five years ago to justify shafting us last time and they've had no more subscriber growth in the southern states than the northern states. And if you want to look at the penetration rates they are 50% less is the southern states. Yes we need Foxtel, but they need us more. All they have to do is stop screwing us over, which hopefully happened when we don't have News appointing directors like Gordon Tallis to the board that signs off on their own tv deals.
Masked Eagle said:Cletus said:Masked Eagle said:pCletus said:Masked Eagle said:I think people are delusional if you think the game can survive with FTA TV money only. What makes you think the NRL is different to every single other major sporting code in the world where this type of income stream is extremely important to their survival?
Why did Foxtel pay bigger dollars for the AFL contract? Because they believe its worth more subscriptions to them. As for league, sure they will pay more because of the results but they aren't going to go nuts when there isn't the scope for growth, especially when there is no competition for them. League will still be on Foxtel, so don't worry about cancelling your subscriptions just yet.
Speaking of delusional, everyone moans about CH9 but your halfway to the nuthouse if you think CHs 7 or 10 will do a better job. If you don't want to watch live footy campaign all you like FTA to take over, because the only way FTA networks can recoup the outlay is ads.
The growth argument is complete bollocks. League provides roughly 50%more subscribers than the AFL yet gets paid half as much. The only reason they can trot out that line and not get laughed at is because there is no viable competitor for Foxtel, they're a monopoly. If they did have a competitor who do you think would get paid more, League that provides 50% more subscribeers currently, or AFL which might provide the same as League in 5 years time?
The only thing thats complete bullocks is your use of statistics. Foxtel wanted a better deal for AFL because they believe it will help with subscriptions. They would argue that most Rugby League supporters who would want Foxtel for League already would have it, so outlaying a massive increase isn't going to see the return. Never fear Foxtel will pay more than they currently are paying, but saying we should ditch them because they will pay more for AFL is the definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face and would only hurt the game in the long run.
It's exactly the same argument they used five years ago to justify shafting us last time and they've had no more subscriber growth in the southern states than the northern states. And if you want to look at the penetration rates they are 50% less is the southern states. Yes we need Foxtel, but they need us more. All they have to do is stop screwing us over, which hopefully happened when we don't have News appointing directors like Gordon Tallis to the board that signs off on their own tv deals.
No doubt we got shafted and I can't see that happening again. The landscape with the IC changes things considerably. I'm just preaching against the we don't need TV money (Pay or FTA) that some people seem to think is true.
Fro said:Masked Eagle said:Cletus said:Masked Eagle said:pCletus said:The growth argument is complete bollocks. League provides roughly 50%more subscribers than the AFL yet gets paid half as much. The only reason they can trot out that line and not get laughed at is because there is no viable competitor for Foxtel, they're a monopoly. If they did have a competitor who do you think would get paid more, League that provides 50% more subscribeers currently, or AFL which might provide the same as League in 5 years time?
The only thing thats complete bullocks is your use of statistics. Foxtel wanted a better deal for AFL because they believe it will help with subscriptions. They would argue that most Rugby League supporters who would want Foxtel for League already would have it, so outlaying a massive increase isn't going to see the return. Never fear Foxtel will pay more than they currently are paying, but saying we should ditch them because they will pay more for AFL is the definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face and would only hurt the game in the long run.
It's exactly the same argument they used five years ago to justify shafting us last time and they've had no more subscriber growth in the southern states than the northern states. And if you want to look at the penetration rates they are 50% less is the southern states. Yes we need Foxtel, but they need us more. All they have to do is stop screwing us over, which hopefully happened when we don't have News appointing directors like Gordon Tallis to the board that signs off on their own tv deals.
No doubt we got shafted and I can't see that happening again. The landscape with the IC changes things considerably. I'm just preaching against the we don't need TV money (Pay or FTA) that some people seem to think is true.
I dont really have anythign to add, but if I keep quoting a million posts I can add another page on this thread.
Jethro said:Fro said:Masked Eagle said:Cletus said:Masked Eagle said:p
The only thing thats complete bullocks is your use of statistics. Foxtel wanted a better deal for AFL because they believe it will help with subscriptions. They would argue that most Rugby League supporters who would want Foxtel for League already would have it, so outlaying a massive increase isn't going to see the return. Never fear Foxtel will pay more than they currently are paying, but saying we should ditch them because they will pay more for AFL is the definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face and would only hurt the game in the long run.
It's exactly the same argument they used five years ago to justify shafting us last time and they've had no more subscriber growth in the southern states than the northern states. And if you want to look at the penetration rates they are 50% less is the southern states. Yes we need Foxtel, but they need us more. All they have to do is stop screwing us over, which hopefully happened when we don't have News appointing directors like Gordon Tallis to the board that signs off on their own tv deals.
No doubt we got shafted and I can't see that happening again. The landscape with the IC changes things considerably. I'm just preaching against the we don't need TV money (Pay or FTA) that some people seem to think is true.
I dont really have anythign to add, but if I keep quoting a million posts I can add another page on this thread.
Can I help you to reach your goal Fro?
Fro said:Jethro said:Fro said:Masked Eagle said:Cletus said:It's exactly the same argument they used five years ago to justify shafting us last time and they've had no more subscriber growth in the southern states than the northern states. And if you want to look at the penetration rates they are 50% less is the southern states. Yes we need Foxtel, but they need us more. All they have to do is stop screwing us over, which hopefully happened when we don't have News appointing directors like Gordon Tallis to the board that signs off on their own tv deals.
No doubt we got shafted and I can't see that happening again. The landscape with the IC changes things considerably. I'm just preaching against the we don't need TV money (Pay or FTA) that some people seem to think is true.
I dont really have anythign to add, but if I keep quoting a million posts I can add another page on this thread.
Can I help you to reach your goal Fro?
All assistance gratefully accepted Jethro, it's probably more interesting than most of the s**t posted these days.
All we need is Shane to come in and my day will be complete...
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