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Woodsie

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Help me out here ... isn't there a provision for salary cap relief or compensation for players out for a lengthy period because of injury in rep games ?

Out for half season ... can we add another player to the 30 ..

Who's out there ... and could get a release ???

If a top-30 roster spot is available for a club seeking salary cap relief, an injured player must be stood down for 12 regular season rounds to bring in a replacement.

He must be a like-for-like player and his contract value the same as the man he's replacing on a pro rata basis and not exceeding $350,000.

If a club does not have a top-30 spot available it can sign a replacement as a 31st squad member, but its injured player has to be ruled out for the rest of the season.
 
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Blake

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RTS is coming back to the Warriors next season, see if Rugby will let him leave and link up with us for the rest of the year.
 

Woodsie

Feast yer eyes ..
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RTS is coming back to the Warriors next season, see if Rugby will let him leave and link up with us for the rest of the year.

all conditional on that compo scheme still being available ...
 

Woodsie

Feast yer eyes ..
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Found this

This was published 5 years ago

NRL to provide salary cap relief for injured rep players​

Adam Pengilly

ByAdam Pengilly

May 22, 2018 — 9.00pm

The NRL will allow clubs to sign replacement players for stars injured in representative games as soon as this year's State of Origin series in the latest salary cap shake-up.
In a move that would have allowed the Raiders to draft in cover for England star Josh Hodgson, who was hurt in last year's World Cup, clubs will now be compensated for long-term injuries suffered by their marquee men while on Test, Origin or All-Stars duty.

League Central will offer salary cap exemption on a dollar-for-dollar basis to players who will be sidelined for 12 weeks or more up to a value of $350,000 from next month when the Origin series begins in Melbourne.
Amidst a wave of lobbying from some clubs fearful of losing their biggest assets while they earn higher honours with little return, the NRL has tried to break down some of that resistance with its latest proposal.

The plan was presented to club bosses at Tuesday's chief executives conference in Sydney and will need to be signed off at the next Australian Rugby League Commission meeting on June 7.
It will be retrospectively applied for any long-term injuries suffered in Origin I the night before.
It seems a mere formality that the game's independent commissioners will tick off the move, which could have in theory provided the Cowboys with a replacement for Johnathan Thurston on their unlikely march to the NRL grand final last year.
The NRL will impose strict conditions on what injuries qualify for salary cap relief and will require medical evidence that a player didn't carry a pre-existing condition into a representative game before suffering a long-term injury.
But the Raiders could have had last summer to find a $350,000 hooking alternative to Hodgson, who ruptured his ACL playing for England in the World Cup, under the new scheme.


"Clubs place significant investments in their players, so it stands to reason that we would attempt to compensate them as much as possible for instances where their players have suffered long-term injuries while they are on representative duties," NRL chief operating officer Nick Weeks said.
"Ultimately we want to support representative football but provide adequate on-field compensation. There are some strong parameters around the relief, but we certainly view this proposal as being fair to all parties."
If a top-30 roster spot is available for a club seeking salary cap relief, an injured player must be stood down for 12 regular season rounds to bring in a replacement.
He must be a like-for-like player and his contract value the same as the man he's replacing on a pro rata basis and not exceeding $350,000.
If a club does not have a top-30 spot available it can sign a replacement as a 31st squad member, but its injured player has to be ruled out for the rest of the season.

There is no limit on how many replacement players a club may sign for long-term injuries suffered in representative games, but it must also consider the financial impact of doing so.
It will somewhat allay the fears of clubs who have fretted about sending their England and New Zealand stars to Denver for the historic mid-season Test with the prospect of no compensation if they were to suffer a serious injury.
The NRL consulted a range of professional American sports as well as the English Super League and Premiership Rugby before deciding on the conditions of its long-term injury replacement scheme for representative players.
It figured 12 games was an appropriate timeframe, given it constituted half a season and is generally the amount of games clubs need to win to make the finals, while $350,000 is the average salary of an NRL player over the next broadcast cycle.
"I think it's been an ongoing discussion," NRL salary cap auditor Richard Gardham said. "From my perspective, there hasn't been one particular incident that has raised it where we've said, 'we've got to do it because of this'.

"I think it's a broader piece around some level of compensation for clubs for developing players, training players, paying players to play NRL and the player then gets rewarded with a rep jersey. It's giving the club some form of compensation from a cap perspective."
All NRL clubs have to lock in their 30-man rosters by June 30 but will be allowed to raid English Super League clubs for injury replacements if they were to suffer a season-ending injury in Origin III.
Other alternatives include elevating development list players or procuring talent outside the NRL clubs.
 

Nordburg

First Grader
RTS is coming back to the Warriors next season, see if Rugby will let him leave and link up with us for the rest of the year.
He won’t be coming to Australia unless it’s for the Roosters and the Warriors are or have made overtures to Rugby NZ to release him.
 

globaleagle

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Found this

This was published 5 years ago

NRL to provide salary cap relief for injured rep players​

Adam Pengilly

ByAdam Pengilly

May 22, 2018 — 9.00pm

The NRL will allow clubs to sign replacement players for stars injured in representative games as soon as this year's State of Origin series in the latest salary cap shake-up.
In a move that would have allowed the Raiders to draft in cover for England star Josh Hodgson, who was hurt in last year's World Cup, clubs will now be compensated for long-term injuries suffered by their marquee men while on Test, Origin or All-Stars duty.

League Central will offer salary cap exemption on a dollar-for-dollar basis to players who will be sidelined for 12 weeks or more up to a value of $350,000 from next month when the Origin series begins in Melbourne.
Amidst a wave of lobbying from some clubs fearful of losing their biggest assets while they earn higher honours with little return, the NRL has tried to break down some of that resistance with its latest proposal.

The plan was presented to club bosses at Tuesday's chief executives conference in Sydney and will need to be signed off at the next Australian Rugby League Commission meeting on June 7.
It will be retrospectively applied for any long-term injuries suffered in Origin I the night before.
It seems a mere formality that the game's independent commissioners will tick off the move, which could have in theory provided the Cowboys with a replacement for Johnathan Thurston on their unlikely march to the NRL grand final last year.
The NRL will impose strict conditions on what injuries qualify for salary cap relief and will require medical evidence that a player didn't carry a pre-existing condition into a representative game before suffering a long-term injury.
But the Raiders could have had last summer to find a $350,000 hooking alternative to Hodgson, who ruptured his ACL playing for England in the World Cup, under the new scheme.


"Clubs place significant investments in their players, so it stands to reason that we would attempt to compensate them as much as possible for instances where their players have suffered long-term injuries while they are on representative duties," NRL chief operating officer Nick Weeks said.
"Ultimately we want to support representative football but provide adequate on-field compensation. There are some strong parameters around the relief, but we certainly view this proposal as being fair to all parties."
If a top-30 roster spot is available for a club seeking salary cap relief, an injured player must be stood down for 12 regular season rounds to bring in a replacement.
He must be a like-for-like player and his contract value the same as the man he's replacing on a pro rata basis and not exceeding $350,000.
If a club does not have a top-30 spot available it can sign a replacement as a 31st squad member, but its injured player has to be ruled out for the rest of the season.

There is no limit on how many replacement players a club may sign for long-term injuries suffered in representative games, but it must also consider the financial impact of doing so.
It will somewhat allay the fears of clubs who have fretted about sending their England and New Zealand stars to Denver for the historic mid-season Test with the prospect of no compensation if they were to suffer a serious injury.
The NRL consulted a range of professional American sports as well as the English Super League and Premiership Rugby before deciding on the conditions of its long-term injury replacement scheme for representative players.
It figured 12 games was an appropriate timeframe, given it constituted half a season and is generally the amount of games clubs need to win to make the finals, while $350,000 is the average salary of an NRL player over the next broadcast cycle.
"I think it's been an ongoing discussion," NRL salary cap auditor Richard Gardham said. "From my perspective, there hasn't been one particular incident that has raised it where we've said, 'we've got to do it because of this'.

"I think it's a broader piece around some level of compensation for clubs for developing players, training players, paying players to play NRL and the player then gets rewarded with a rep jersey. It's giving the club some form of compensation from a cap perspective."
All NRL clubs have to lock in their 30-man rosters by June 30 but will be allowed to raid English Super League clubs for injury replacements if they were to suffer a season-ending injury in Origin III.
Other alternatives include elevating development list players or procuring talent outside the NRL clubs.

I forgot about the 350k linit.

"So yeah, we want clubs not to be disadvantaged for lending us the biggest and most expensive stars....well up to 350k max because well nrl head office still needs their christmas junket."


Ok, not a problem, off you go Manly and find a tom like fullback, that can play the rest of the season for 350k.
 

BOZO

Journey Man
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All NRL clubs have to lock in their 30-man rosters by June 30 but will be allowed to raid English Super League clubs for injury replacements if they were to suffer a season-ending injury in Origin III.
Other alternatives include elevating development list players or procuring talent outside the NRL clubs.
Thanks @Woodise
Its good to see that every club has options for winning
Instead of excuses for losing
 

Nordburg

First Grader
Doesn't have to be ... just the rest of the year would be fine ..
That’s why I mentioned him because he runs hot for a while,then goes missing.Problem will be getting someone for a short term contract.I suppose it’s better than sitting in reserve grade and not being able to show off your wares to prospective buyers
 

Woodsie

Feast yer eyes ..
Tipping Member
I forgot about the 350k linit.

"So yeah, we want clubs not to be disadvantaged for lending us the biggest and most expensive stars....well up to 350k max because well nrl head office still needs their christmas junket."


Ok, not a problem, off you go Manly and find a tom like fullback, that can play the rest of the season for 350k.

Remember, that article is 5 years old .... I don't know if the scheme is still in place ... or if the amounts have been adjusted to the increased salary cap ...
 

Nordburg

First Grader
Remember, that article is 5 years old .... I don't know if the scheme is still in place ... or if the amounts have been adjusted to the increased salary cap ...
Not sure on the compo figure but does still exist and the cut off date is August 1.Like most things involving the inner workings of the NRL,it’s near impossible to find by just googling
 

Thewestisbest

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So far our recruitment under Spoony has been poo, kaka, merde, and all other things turd like. He has extended Tuipulotu until the end of 2025, extended Morgan Boyle for another 12 months, signed Cooper Johns, signed Sharon Woods, then signed Jake Arthur in an attempt to negate the Johns signing. Riveting stuff! If we do get compensation he'll likely sign another never was or a burnt out discard from the scrap heap.
 

Nordburg

First Grader
So far our recruitment under Spoony has been poo, kaka, merde, and all other things turd like. He has extended Tuipulotu until the end of 2025, extended Morgan Boyle for another 12 months, signed Cooper Johns, signed Sharon Woods, then signed Jake Arthur in an attempt to negate the Johns signing. Riveting stuff! If we do get compensation he'll likely sign another never was or a burnt out discard from the scrap heap.
Who were you expecting him to sign given the cap squeeze and the fact the Dolphins struggled to get anyone of note that would of benefited Manly?
 

Sheikheagle

First Grader
Tipping Member
The Roosters are after him. I doubt he will come here.
I would suggest Jake Toby, but like others suggest he's not 1st grade material even though he's been carving it up in BWSE.

Roosters have manu, Teddy and suiali no chance he is going there for a short term stint given he is signed at the warriors for next year.
 

Ron E. Gibbs

First Grader
Posted in another thread, but belongs here as well. Just popped up in the Tele's "Late Mail":

Manly have opened talks with the NRL over salary cap dispensation for Tom Trbojevic after scans confirmed that the club’s talismanic fullback and highest paid player had torn his pectoral muscle.

Trbojevic flew home from Brisbane early on Thursday morning and underwent scans later in the day, the results revealing that he had suffered a tear rather than a milder strain in the opening minutes of the second State of Origin game.

The worst case would be the end of Trbojevic’s season and while Manly hold out hope that won’t be the case, they have begun contingency planning just in case.

News Corp understands informal talks have already been held over whether the club can access salary cap relief under the rule which was brought in five years ago around representative football.

Manly may be able to access up to $350,000 which they can put towards signing a player for the remainder of the season on the proviso that Trbojevic is ruled out for a minimum of 12 weeks.

The Sea Eagles will know more once Trbojevic visits a specialist on Friday morning, although a long stint on the sidelines appears a formality.

Even with a significant amount of money at their disposal, Manly will find Trbojevic irreplaceable, something players and officials recognised on Thursday as they came to grips with the prospect of his long-term absence.

Manly skipper Daly Cherry-Evans said it was impossible not to let his mind drift to the Sea Eagles even during play on Wednesday night.

“My heart stinks straight away,” Cherry-Evans said.

“Even out there in the heat of it I thought straight away ‘oh no I hope this isn’t bad’. I’ve got my fingers crossed. He is a big part of our club.”

Unfortunately for the Sea Eagles they have become all too used to playing without their marquee man in recent seasons. He has not played more than 20 games in a season since 2018 with his career now punctuated by a string of long-term injuries.

“It’s a huge loss,” Cherry-Evans said.

“We all know how important he is to our club. He is one of the best players in the competition. Our group needs to worry who is in our team, not who isn’t in our team.

“That’s hard to do sometimes when it’s such a key player but if we want to go far this year and make finals.

“We can sympathise with our teammate but we need to look at how we can play well. That’s the mentality that’s needed.”

The Sea Eagles sit one point outside the top eight. The fullback role is expected to be given to youngster Kaeo Weekes at least in the short-term with the Sea Eagles taking on Melbourne on Saturday night. They have alternatives in Reuben Garrick and Tolu Koula.

“Kaeo is going to play this weekend,” Cherry-Evans said.

“He has had his opportunity in the last couple of weeks. We need K to stand up and go to another level. He has had a bit of introduction to first grade.

“He is one part of our team but he is an important part of our team. He needs to go to another level and I know he has got it in him.”
 
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Cliffy's Jockstrap

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I don't know what the technical rules actually are, but I suggest Garrick will turn out to be the answer. I don't think Weekes is, at this stage, although I expect we will try him for a while. We should either put Weekes to the wing to find his feet in first grade in the Old Time way, or 14 to add some attacking penetration from the Bench (no offence to Lawton but he just doesn't bring that). I suspect the short term answer to Garrick's Centre spot will have to be Harper and you know I am not too thrilled saying that. But with a good defensive winger - and frankly I am thinking of Vaega rather than Tui - Harper might find some confidence and love for the game again. One can but hope.
 
I don't know what the technical rules actually are, but I suggest Garrick will turn out to be the answer. I don't think Weekes is, at this stage, although I expect we will try him for a while. We should either put Weekes to the wing to find his feet in first grade in the Old Time way, or 14 to add some attacking penetration from the Bench (no offence to Lawton but he just doesn't bring that). I suspect the short term answer to Garrick's Centre spot will have to be Harper and you know I am not too thrilled saying that. But with a good defensive winger - and frankly I am thinking of Vaega rather than Tui - Harper might find some confidence and love for the game again. One can but hope.
Don't know why it's so hard to pick Jake Toby.
The guy is carving it up in BWSE and Weekes hasn't proved himself at that level yet but still gets picked for 1st grade.
 

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