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Compare the journalism on Toovey.

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by niccipops, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. niccipops

    niccipops un echidna spillo mia bevanda Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +6,354 /56
    Read these two articles on our new coach who's put in an outstanding effort this year considering what he's had to deal with.

    The stories are on the same topic. The first from the tele - note the headline and what they focus on.

    The second is from SMH, a totally different tone,
    For me this is very affirming that the tele has an agenda against Mighty Eagles and will report any stories in a negative manner, where possible.



    I conclude, daily telecrap, that you suck.
    Go the Mighty Sea Eagles.
  2. Stevo

    Stevo Well-Known Member

    +1,401 /56
    I've seen worse.

    In saying that, yeah, the telegraph sucks!
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    • Brissie Kid

      Brissie Kid Well-Known Member

      +1,176 /19
      Have a look at this one on Toovey at http://www.nrl.com/toovey-plays-down-top-four-for-manly/tabid/10874/newsid/69559/default.aspx

      How come the journalist seems ignorant that the ARL had this top 8 system in 1995 when 6th placed Bulldogs beat Manly in the grand final and in 1996 when 7th placed Dragons lost to Manly in the grand final????

      Toovey surely remembers the Bulldogs were not in the Top 4 in 1995.
    • WAMF

      WAMF Well-Known Member

      +408 /0
      There appears to be an agenda against the Sea Eagles each time the DT report on Manly.
      Kent, Massoud, Rothfield and that skanky b1tch alcoholic just can't help themselves.
    • Chip and Chase

      Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +8,580 /80
      He is saying no AFL team from outside the top 4 has made the Grand Final since they have been using a top 8.
    • Brissie Kid

      Brissie Kid Well-Known Member

      +1,176 /19
      And fails to talk about 1995 and 1996 when the ARL had it.
    • Mals

      Mals Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +1,650 /39
      Indeed, the only Telegraph reporter who is balanced in regards to Manly is James Hooper. Unfortunately he only writes for the Sunday Tele.
    • Disco

      Disco Well-Known Member

      +1,776 /48
      Gee some of you lot are sensitive, nothing wrong with that DT article in my eyes
    • Frank

      Frank Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +1,453 /27
      Noticed further down the DT article the Robbo got married last weekend in Venice.

      All the best for you and your missus Wang man!
    • eagle-rock08

      eagle-rock08 Active Member

      +70 /0
      One can write anything with a particular slant to their own feelings.

      A bit off the topic but, try this on as an example:

      "Woman without her man is useless."

      Pretty derogatory to women would you agree? But read it again with punctuation:

      "Woman; without her, man is useless."

      Same words different slant and totally different meaning.

      Sorry - not trying to be high-brow but it illustrates the point some writers will stoop to get a particular editorial point across rather than the facts.
    • lsz

      lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +4,844 /102
      Where is the DT target market?

      Where is the SMH target market?
    • Oneyeagle

      Oneyeagle Active Member

      +30 /0
      Accolades to the senior playing group looking to Tooves for guidance.

      Maturity beyond their years.

      Know exactly where they are coming from.

      What a team. Go Manly
    • Ryan

      Ryan Well-Known Member

      +9,386 /402
      Strange, I have been told Tooves is pretty explosive....especially to the younger guys.

      That being said, we have started to grind back into that machine like culture under him, so kudos from me. Especially considering I was one of his biggest critics.

      I can admit, as a coach, he seems to be making the right moves, and I may have been wrong about - nah - I was wrong with where I thought we'd end up under him.
    • The Wheel

      The Wheel Well-Known Member

      +2,756 /88
      Not the first time you have been wrong Ryan
    • niccipops

      niccipops un echidna spillo mia bevanda Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +6,354 /56
      I agree that a journalist can put whatever slant they want to their article.
      Imo the tele article infers by it's headline that the current situation is that Tooves is rattled not in control at Manly. In the article they do clarify that quotes by Watmough are referring to Tooves at the start of the year.
      The difference is the choice of headlines by the journalists.
      And yes, I am a sensitive lot regarding Manly and media and I do give in to the occasional opinionated rant. Go Manly, and I love the Snake! Love the club in general actually.
    • conanu

      conanu Well-Known Member

      +2,445 /46
      The Tele article is basically saying that it was the senior players pulling Tooves along and leaves you with the impression that the senior players are the reason we are 4th not Toovey. Dean Ritchie again talking smack. The guy is a jerk!
    • MadMarcus

      MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +8,378 /74
      Apparently Choc was telling Perry what to do as well, that's why Manly has managed to re-sign nearly everyone.
    • SeaEagleRock8

      SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +10,547 /214
      I didn't criticise him but I did have some private doubts about Tooves. Like you, I admit my doubts were unfounded.

      Coming in straight after a great coach like Hasler, who had guru status and was loved by the players, was a very tall order. To put it in perspective, I reckon even a lot of good coaches with plenty of experience might have struggled in that scenario. He's been fantastic.
    • sean1976

      sean1976 Well-Known Member

      +416 /19
      The terrorgraphs coverage of the lead up to the GF last year really got under my skin. Remember the 'sea evils' headline. They even had some pathetic editorial after the GF that said that "at least sydney's worst can beat New Zealand's best'. Its the standard guff you get when you read the Murdoch papers though so I expect more of it soon.

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