Its obvious the harmony & attitude in the Manly NSW Cup side is shocking atm. Now theres plenty who dont find this grade relevant but it really is. If we were to have several injuries as in 2010, you want the blokes to have a positive, confident mindset to step up to the top grade. Many will argue as long as theres a couple of players with the quality to play top grade, results do not matter. What this really reinstates is the passion & commitment Toovey reflects on his players unlike ANY other coach, many teams with players in this situation just plod along if there is no pressure to hold their position in the 17 for next week, the effort & results usally show this. Tooves has provided a smokescreen on this fact by still getting the best out of his players every week, but the issue needs to be dealt with. Not about to bash Willo who gave his best as an unfashionable player, but lacks important areas in coaching , namely respect from the players. The results in comparison with the squad do not match up.... Really think its time to find a new NSW Cup coach with Cliffy at the top of the List & maybe Beaver involved also??