FFS Manly fans need to learn to get some patience
This time last year, the exact same thing was being said about Lyon, and Des was copping it left, right and centre for sticking with him, because "He would never be a 5/8". The same happened in Kite's 1st season with us, people were calling for his head and he was a useless buy
The bench player at Newcastle thing is irrelevant as well, we had a side last year that won the comp made up of a lot of them, guys like Robertson, Matai, Williams, Hall, Bryant etc