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ads

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Totally agree Susan. There has to be at least two Toyota cup and two nsw cup centres about. I hate makeshift centres - cruels the defense on that side.
 

Duff

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Whare and Taufua are both centres by trade. We'd be looking for wingers. Oldfield would be one. I haven't seen enough lower grade games in the later stages of the season to comment on who has the form to be the other.
 

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Not so sure Duff. In the modern game wingers are possibly even more important than centres, not so much in attack but for their positional play in defence. At least a rookie centre has a teammate on either side of him for support?

edit - though I agree Whare is actually a centre not a winger, he can take one spot if needed
 

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ads said:
Totally agree Susan. There has to be at least two Toyota cup and two nsw cup centres about. I hate makeshift centres - cruels the defense on that side.
Haven't they got to be in our top 25 to use them?
 

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Sheikheagle said:
ads said:
Totally agree Susan. There has to be at least two Toyota cup and two nsw cup centres about. I hate makeshift centres - cruels the defense on that side.
Haven't they got to be in our top 25 to use them?
Yep they do. The only choices we have are Oldfield,Whare,Taufua. The others are Farrar,Matai,Wolf,Lyon. We are going to have to use Buhrer,Liam or T Dog out wide no choice if we lose both. In fact our entire first choice backline could be out. Wolf and Farrar wingers Lyon Matai centers. This is worse than 2010.
 

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Please explain to me then how teams use more than 25 players in a season if they have to be in the top 25?

If its a winger the bloke can expect to be bombed all night so he should be picked with that in mind.

Ben Falcone would be my pick to come up
 

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mickqld said:
Sheikheagle said:
ads said:
Totally agree Susan. There has to be at least two Toyota cup and two nsw cup centres about. I hate makeshift centres - cruels the defense on that side.
Haven't they got to be in our top 25 to use them?
Yep they do. The only choices we have are Oldfield,Whare,Taufua. The others are Farrar,Matai,Wolf,Lyon. We are going to have to use Buhrer,Liam or T Dog out wide no choice if we lose both. In fact our entire first choice backline could be out. Wolf and Farrar wingers Lyon Matai centers. This is worse than 2010.
I thought that was just a salary cap issue? I hope T Rex doesn't get a recall to the centres I'm still getting counselling from the last time he played there.
 

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ALinda said:
1947 said:
SeaEagleRock8 said:
Ben Farrar would be fresh.
Surely he is ok now - whack him in there lol
Oldfield is way to nervy for me.
He did say to me back in June he was a chance of coming back during the finals, so don't laugh, maybe he IS ok now?!
Not laughing I would prefer Farrar to Oldfield anyday.
 

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Many clubs use 30 players plus per year -their is no requirement at all they be in the top 25 otheriwise a team with 9 injuries couldnt field a side.You can use as many players as you like but there are salary cap restrictions come into play when the club is really wounded and not sure how we stand in that regard.

Anyway the point being,if it is possible then select a specialist and not go with something(Buhrer) that has been an abject failure each and every time.We are up against the best organiser in the world next week.
 

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NSW cup centres are revolving doors in defence at that level - can you imagine what Tate would do to them. Other than Oldfield replacements would need to come from Toyota cup probably Gutherson.
 

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Bottom line is buhrer is not a centre and Whare is not a winger. Whare makes much better reads when he plays centre, it's his natural position and the reason he is leaving our club.

Oldfield must be picked. You need wingers playing wing, not centres. As Susan said you have to pick players in their natural positions.

Stewart
Oldfield
Whare
???
Jorge
Foran
DCE

Where do we get the other centre? I'm not sure, but it cannot be Buhrer. Jamie will be essential later in the game when the big cowboys pack starts to tire and he comes on to replace Ballin.

Big george needs to come back in too.
 

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As great as some of those prospects sound, I think we should just stick with Matai and Killer :)
 

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clontaago said:
Bottom line is buhrer is not a centre and Whare is not a winger. Whare makes much better reads when he plays centre, it's his natural position and the reason he is leaving our club.

Oldfield must be picked. You need wingers playing wing, not centres. As Susan said you have to pick players in their natural positions.

Stewart
Oldfield
Whare
???
Jorge
Foran
DCE

Where do we get the other centre? I'm not sure, but it cannot be Buhrer. Jamie will be essential later in the game when the big cowboys pack starts to tire and he comes on to replace Ballin.

Big george needs to come back in too.
We just need to pray Lyon plays
 

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If matai out would you prefer:
A) whare to left centre, Oldy to right wing

B) trex to left centre, chock to left 2nd row, Harrison taking chock's spot up the middle.

There is some attraction for me having taufua,trex and chock running on the left off kieran. Rocks or diamonds, but could pay dividends.
 

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Shoe1 said:
If matai out would you prefer:
A) whare to left centre, Oldy to right wing

B) trex to left centre, chock to left 2nd row, Harrison taking chock's spot up the middle.

There is some attraction for me having taufua,trex and chock running on the left off kieran. Rocks or diamonds, but could pay dividends.
I think option A will minimise the disruption to the team.

Would be interesting to watch some training runs this week, to see what Tooves is planning.
 

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Fingers crossed Killer will make a miraculous recovery and Matai uses the Minichello defence at the judiciary and both play on Friday night.
 

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Ceagle said:
clontaago said:
Bottom line is buhrer is not a centre and Whare is not a winger. Whare makes much better reads when he plays centre, it's his natural position and the reason he is leaving our club.

Oldfield must be picked. You need wingers playing wing, not centres. As Susan said you have to pick players in their natural positions.

Stewart
Oldfield
Whare
???
Jorge
Foran
DCE

Where do we get the other centre? I'm not sure, but it cannot be Buhrer. Jamie will be essential later in the game when the big cowboys pack starts to tire and he comes on to replace Ballin.

Big george needs to come back in too.
We just need to pray Lyon plays
Agreed, at least for the first 60 if he cant manage a whole match.

If no Killer, then Whare on right centre, TRex on Left with defensive help, promises and pacts from Foz, Jorge cant catch high ball, but he CAN run hard, tackle hard, but needs to stay out on wing.
I just deplore the mormons for what they stole from us.
 

EagleRock40

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Matai has taken the early guily plea -
2.Taufua
3.Whare
4.Lyon
5.Oldfield
Fingers crossed that Killer plays, if not T-Rex to left centre, Harrison into the backrow.
 

Stevo

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I would use Centres to replace Centres.

Although, you can nearly guarantee players will be pushed from the inside out. Foran, T-rex, Gift and Buhrer would all be candidates.
 

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