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Brett kimmorley: manly, warriors biggest nrl disappointments

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by lsz, Mar 18, 2016.

By lsz on Mar 18, 2016 at 10:57 AM
  1. lsz

    lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    Has there been a bigger disappointment than Manly and the Warriors in the opening two rounds?

    Yes they're just two of six teams without a win, and they haven't copped a hiding like Sydney Roosters, St George Ilawarra Dragons and Newcastle Knights have done, but the Warriors and the Sea Eagles were both considered preseason to be finals contenders and they've shown nothing in their opening games.

    I tipped the Warriors in my preseason predictions to finish second in the minor premiership, with Manly fifth, but they're both a long way from fulfilling those ambitions.

    The Warriors have been criticised for two weeks now, and they're now on a 10-match losing spin. They produced a horror show in the first 40 minutes of their first game against Wests Tigers, and no amount of improvement in the second half altered that impression. We needed to see a better effort against Brisbane in Round 2, and they tried hard, but they were the dumbest football side in the world.

    I wanted to see Shaun Johnson playing more with ball in hand, taking the ball to the line, being a leader who inspires teammates to follow him; instead we saw him kicking on Tackle 3, while teammates dropped balls and made simple and fundamental defensive errors.

    This game against the Storm back at Mt Smart is the making or sacking of coach Andrew McFadden. Play poor in their first game at home, and we'll see fan pressure which turns to media pressure which turns to people seeing they need change.

    Warriors players must also be under pressure; there's a number of players McFadden's shown a lot of faith while guys like Konrad Hurrell haven't been picked.

    I'd like to think the Warriors have SOMETHING. I tipped them for second on the ladder in my pre-season predictions; they've got Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Issac Luke, they've got all these great players. Now they have to have some brains, show us how good they are as a football side, and compete with some smarts.

    For some reason they lift against the Storm and I've tipped a massive upset. The Warriors are at home with players playing for their future; if they don't have a dig this weekend, they will never dig ever.

    McFadden isn't alone in being under pressure.

    Manly appointed Trent Barrett having got rid of Geoff Toovey, a club legend last year; remember they made the finals under Toovs. And the Sea Eagles have been poor this season. Some people think they were better against Wests Tigers at Leichhardt on Monday, but I don't agree.

    They got back in the contest through individual tries -- a freakish effort from Dylan Walker and a score from dummy-half - but their attacking football wasn't great.

    Defensively they're really poor, too; I'm not liking how they're tackling, and that's a pretty important part of the game. I don't see them physically being able to tackle big sides, and they're certainly facing a big side this week in the Sharks.

    I've also got lingering concerns about Dylan Walker at five-eight; his combination with Daly Cherry-Evans isn't working, and I still don't know how many points they've got in them. It's not working. I know Jamie Lyon doesn't want to play five-eight but for the good of the club he has to be there to provide playmaking composure.

    I'm not sure the number of new players is too much of an issue, either. They bought extremely well, and Martin Tapau and Nate Myles are Test players, quality footballers.

    I thought preseason they had the balance right with the forwards and dummy half. I didn't see too many deficiencies, and said "they'll be knocking on the door come September".

    I think they're really struggling, and I think Cronulla will roll to a pretty easy win.

    http://www.espn.com.au/nrl/story/_/...s-nrl-biggest-disappointments-improve-round-3
     

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Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by lsz, Mar 18, 2016.

    1. Peter C

      Peter C Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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      As much as I dislike him, I can't really argue with him
       
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      • ando

        ando Active Member

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        Its a fair and accurate summary
         
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        • Rusty Cage

          Rusty Cage Active Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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          Brett Kimmorley was a bigger disappointment back in the northern eagles days.

          Ahhhhh. Wash my mouth out!
           
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          • brad

            brad Well-Known Member

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            I'll listen to what kimmorley says after round 22 not round 2.
             
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            • mickqld

              mickqld Sack Greenslime 2017 Tipping Competitor

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              Fuk off Kimmorley who cares what's coming out of your arse.
               
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              • Lord Eagleton

                Lord Eagleton Well-Known Member

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                He is captain obvious - just says what we all know and what most think. There is nothing ground breaking or insightful in his observations. Yeah, you cant argue with what he said but he is still a muppet.
                 
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                • brad

                  brad Well-Known Member

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                  He should be the one that gives back money to us.
                   
                • HoldenV8

                  HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

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                  "I thought preseason they had the balance right with the forwards and dummy half. I didn't see too many deficiencies, and said "they'll be knocking on the door come September"."

                  In the preseason was when we had Matt Parcell at dummy half, but since the season started Barrett has gone with Koroisau with Parcell reduced to a bit part.

                  That was before he decided that Green is a better option than Mateo, Leary and T-Red. And it was before he decided that Vave was a better option than Lussick.

                  And that's not to mention Snake's hammy which threw the backline into chaos.
                   
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                  • wedgetail eagle

                    wedgetail eagle Well-Known Member Premium Member

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                    What an observation Kimmorley has made!
                    The way he picked up on that, he should've been a Forensic scientist. Wasted.
                     
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                    • MissKate

                      MissKate Well-Known Member Premium Member

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                      Please, please, please do not make us have to agree w this oxygen thief. I feel sick
                       
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                      • BOZO

                        BOZO Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                        On paper we have a very good side and I hope on Monday night they can get it all together and silence the critics.
                         
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                        • Loobs

                          Loobs I am not really Scott Penn Premium Member

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                          espn is the home of the worst pundits in the game. As a sports network they have no credibility. The fact a moron like kimmorley works for them here is no surprise. I guess Fittler wasn't available.
                           
                        • SeaEagleRock8

                          SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                          Then you are clearly an idiot, so why should we bother to listen to you, ever again?!
                           
                        • Shoe1

                          Shoe1 Well-Known Member

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                          Well, kimmorley was just about my biggest disappointment.
                           
                        • mbe

                          mbe Well-Known Member

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                          Both teams have a lot of new players and they haven't gelled yet. Once the players start getting used to each other and know their job in the team you will see two very exciting teams. Manly has the players there to just rip teams apart as both Walker and Taupau did last Monday and we will see more of it once the players get to know one another more and have more confidence in each other.
                           
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                          • The Who

                            The Who Well-Known Member

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                            Biggest NRL disappointment? Todd Greenturd getting the job we'd all kill for.
                             
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                            • Ryan

                              Ryan Well-Known Member

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                              Nah, I've got some feedback for Brett (intercept try) Kimmorley: How about this: **** OFF
                               
                            • ALinda

                              ALinda Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                              You took the words out of my mouth! :nod:
                               
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