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You should be aware they pretty much pick from the cream of the Queensland Cup, so whilst it’s easy to say “ it’s all due to Bellamy “ there are many many factors at play.
The Cream rising Perspective ....

This is the main factor at Play feathered friend
Its all about the Head coach implementing Winning Systems at the club
and when the Head coach does that
The Cream and the Club rises to the top .

NRL head coaches definitely put systems in place. A key part of their role is to develop and implement strategies, including offensive and defensive systems, training methods, and team structures to improve player performance and achieve success.

Here's a more detailed look at how they do this:
  • Developing Game Plans:
    Coaches create detailed game plans that outline how the team will attack and defend, including specific plays, formations, and tactical approaches.

  • Implementing Training Systems:
    They design and implement training programs that focus on skill development, physical conditioning, and tactical awareness, such as "progressing training drills, systems you put in place, and the strength and conditioning you put in place," says Matt Ballin, a former professional rugby league player and coach.

  • Setting Team Structures:
    Coaches establish clear roles and responsibilities for players, including formations on the field, and communication protocols to ensure everyone understands their place in the system.

  • Building a Culture:
    NRL coaches also play a crucial role in fostering a positive team culture by establishing values, expectations, and behaviors that promote teamwork and a winning mindset.

  • Adapting to Opponents:
    They are constantly evaluating opponents and adapting their systems accordingly, making adjustments based on the strengths and weaknesses of their opponents.
In essence, NRL coaches are not just about on-field execution; they are also responsible for creating the environment and strategies that allow their teams to thrive.
 
First you confirm that Bellamy is a unique talent and a great coach

Then you say he would be like a fish out of water at Manly and would not make any difference

You say this and contradict your self because you dont make any sense
If you read my messages fully you’d get it ( and it’s clear you don’t ) the Storm “ system “ is absolute first class , no club has better facilities or staff.

You move him to the under budgeted system at Brookvale & he’d struggle like he did with the NSW Blues.

He’s a great motivator ( granted ) but he’s working with an unbelievable budget & facilities , take that , and those people away and he’d be little different to what we have!!

Why is it do you think he resisted an enormous offer to move to Brisbane ??

That’s easy , he quite simply wouldn’t be as successful.

You need to read my responses , not pick one line to quote and pick apart.
 
Agree. I think his greatest trait is that he can take an average player & get the best from the (e.g. Nick Meaney). But he couldn't get the magic working for NSW & he hasn't tested himself at a range of clubs to demonstrate his ability to replicate his Storm success. Great coach though in what he has done at the Storm.
As I have continued to say , the Storm system ( mainly their staff ) is incredible , but the budget allows this.

I really have no idea what they spend but let’s say if the NRL allowance on the footy department is 5 million , I bet they spend 20 million.

The proof of what I say is if he is the master coach why didn’t he get the star studded Blues side winning ??

I’ll grant you he’s the master motivator but having seen their system first hand it’s far from just him as to the reason why they are successful.

They’ve built , with an unlimited budget , an absolute empire down there.
 
The Cream rising Perspective ....

This is the main factor at Play feathered friend
Its all about the Head coach implementing Winning Systems at the club
and when the Head coach does that
The Cream and the Club rises to the top .

NRL head coaches definitely put systems in place. A key part of their role is to develop and implement strategies, including offensive and defensive systems, training methods, and team structures to improve player performance and achieve success.

Here's a more detailed look at how they do this:
  • Developing Game Plans:
    Coaches create detailed game plans that outline how the team will attack and defend, including specific plays, formations, and tactical approaches.

  • Implementing Training Systems:
    They design and implement training programs that focus on skill development, physical conditioning, and tactical awareness, such as "progressing training drills, systems you put in place, and the strength and conditioning you put in place," says Matt Ballin, a former professional rugby league player and coach.

  • Setting Team Structures:
    Coaches establish clear roles and responsibilities for players, including formations on the field, and communication protocols to ensure everyone understands their place in the system.

  • Building a Culture:
    NRL coaches also play a crucial role in fostering a positive team culture by establishing values, expectations, and behaviors that promote teamwork and a winning mindset.

  • Adapting to Opponents:
    They are constantly evaluating opponents and adapting their systems accordingly, making adjustments based on the strengths and weaknesses of their opponents.
In essence, NRL coaches are not just about on-field execution; they are also responsible for creating the environment and strategies that allow their teams to thrive.
So you’ve copied & pasted this from somewhere else , well done.

But you completely ignore one thing.

It’s say a 20 million budget v a 5 million budget.

That buys an awful lot of experts to assist in every single facet that’s needed in comparison to the spend of probably 14 of the other 17 clubs.

You can continue to completely ignore this factor & say it’s all down to one man, and if that’s the case it continues to show your utter ignorance.
 
If you read my messages fully you’d get it ( and it’s clear you don’t ) the Storm “ system “ is absolute first class , no club has better facilities or staff.

You move him to the under budgeted system at Brookvale & he’d struggle like he did with the NSW Blues.

He’s a great motivator ( granted ) but he’s working with an unbelievable budget & facilities , take that , and those people away and he’d be little different to what we have!!

Why is it do you think he resisted an enormous offer to move to Brisbane ??

That’s easy , he quite simply wouldn’t be as successful.

You need to read my responses , not pick one line to quote and pick apart.
I did read you message fully and its obviously you fully did not understand that the Head coach puts Winning Systems in place and this is why their teams keep winning


The Manly Club has been a Budget club with out News corp ownership
But that did not stop the Quality coach Hasler at the time to win Premierships
Des beat all the Superior funded News Corp clubs

As for your ridiculous point that Bellamy would make no difference at Club Level Manly because he was not successful at SOO level
Bellamy Reins Club Level King Supreme
 
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The copy and paste was to make my point with facts
which over rides your fictional fish out of water Nonsense
With your preposterous point of view
That The Brilliant Bellamy would NOT make a difference at any club
Did I say ANY club , no I did NOT.

Put him at Manly , with a 5 million budget and he would only marginally improve our existing side.

For gods sake , get with the program
 
Did I say ANY club , no I did NOT.

Put him at Manly , with a 5 million budget and he would only marginally improve our existing side.

For gods sake , get with the program
Yes you did say that Bellamy would be like a fish out of water at Manly

I did say that Manly have been on a Budget but that excuse of yours did not Prevent them from Winning Premierships without the $$$uperior Newscorp dollar under the Great coach Des Hasler at the Peak of his Premiership Winning Prime

Mate the more I chat with you the More you sound Like your mate Mestrov
 
I guess Vince Lombardi would be a low hanging fruit pick.
Lord I had no idea and thought he may have just been retro ranked...but this record is something else

Vince Lombardi's overall NFL head coaching record was 105 wins, 35 losses, and 6 ties, including playoff games. His regular season record was 96-34-6, with a playoff record of 9-1. He never had a losing season
 
Recruited , developed or bought? (the superstars that is)

All of the above really - but all three coaches were "lucky" enough to coach superstars early in their careers which helped get things moving along.

Riley and PJ were assistants, that were promoted to head coaches, on teams that had Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan respectively. Popovich's teams were built around Tim Duncan who was drafted number 1
 
If you read my messages fully you’d get it ( and it’s clear you don’t ) the Storm “ system “ is absolute first class , no club has better facilities or staff.

You move him to the under budgeted system at Brookvale & he’d struggle like he did with the NSW Blues.

He’s a great motivator ( granted ) but he’s working with an unbelievable budget & facilities , take that , and those people away and he’d be little different to what we have!!

Why is it do you think he resisted an enormous offer to move to Brisbane ??

That’s easy , he quite simply wouldn’t be as successful.

You need to read my responses , not pick one line to quote and pick apart.
I don’t think success in State of origin coaching translates to the NRL. Completely different. Gee if this was the case it would like saying that fatty vautin was the greatest FG coach Manly very had 😂

I agree that Bellamy has had the luxury of being supported by great systems but it is important to note that he also contributed to building those systems. Melbourne were never an overnight success
 
Just on Dessie ... one thing that has always concerned me about his coaching ... is the fact that none of his assistants have ever gone on to greater things ... take Bellamy and Robinson .. their ex-assistants are littered throughout the NRL coaching ranks.

Pretty good yardstick for a coach.
 
Hasler best coach of NRL era until the introduction of the 6-again infringements in 2020.

In this 21-year period, Bennett took star studded Broncos and Dragons teams to 3 premierships and another GF. But he was helpless at Knights, and the first few years at Brisbane, literally had the QLD Origin side at his disposal. Bellamy took his all-star club to 2 premierships and another 2 GFs. Cameron Smith and Billy Slater most likely future Immortals in the same team. Robinson 3 premierships, bought and paid for.

But Des took over a rabble of a club after Northern Eagles, with a budget that doesn't come close to these big 3 clubs, in terms of support staff and facilities, and took them to 2 premierships and another GF that should have been a default premiership all things considered. Set up the group for another GF. Then took another rabble at Canterbury and took them to another 2 GFs. Considering the uneven playing field between clubs and rosters, Des wins hands down in my books (although I'm sure I am a little biased)

Bennett and Bellamy over time however have proven to be the best.
 

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