Its a tough call but the sport is based on results & the axe seems to fall pretty close to the coach when the chips are down. Its especially tough in cases like this where a club legend who bleeds Manly, is under the pump & we all know damn well he is giving it 100% as he did on the field. The facts are the team has been on a downward spiral for a while, but is it only Toovey to blame?? Theres many contributing factors including injuries, inhouse politics, players dithering over contracts, media ambush & as the demtel man would say "but wait - theres more" The only issues I am concerned about is - Do the players want to play for him....& the odd selection, but thats always debatable in every team The funny thing I see about these coaching credentials being based on results - certain coaches get an elite squad with several rep players & are hailed as the best coach, when in actual fact, any local park coach would win with the talent they have on the field. A bigger effort for mine (& I hate Illawarra) is the McGregor effort getting a team who is rightfully a spoon battler, to compete in every game - getting his troops to play with massive intensity to defy teams that you would expect them to get smashed by. As a sports buff I done this thread in reaction to every team in various sports I support - the coach is under the pump & I have mixed feelings on everything being the coaches fault - Manly its Toovey - Liverpool its Rodgers & Carlton its that old grey headed fella. Maybe my opinion has been transformed in recent times, but in professional sports, change is part of moving forward - I am a massive Toovey fan but the fact is, unless theres a massive immediate turnaround on the field - changes are inevitable.