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The rise of Latu Fainu: How Manly lost future halfback to the Wests Tigers​

Latu Fainu was earmarked as a long-term half for the Sea Eagles and a replacement for Daly Cherry-Evans, until his relationship with Manly turned sour. Now he could come back to haunt his old club.

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Wests Tigers forward Samuela Fainu has revealed his personal torment at seeing his younger brother Latu go through injury hell and his pride at seeing him fight back as the Fainu family prepare to take centre stage against former club Manly on Friday night.
Latu Fainu has missed a multitude of games over the past two seasons through injury, the most serious a hamstring concern that shook his confidence and had many doubting whether he would ever reach his enormous potential.

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As Latu prepares to start alongside Tigers superstar Jarome Luai for the first time, Samuela revealed the depths of despair his brother had overcome to give himself a shot at becoming a permanent fixture in the halves.

“Some days he wouldn’t even come out of his room,” Samuela Fainu said.

“I wouldn’t see him eat some days but like I said, he got through it and that will make him a stronger person. Yeah he’s been through a lot for a couple of years now.
“But now it’s helped him off the field mentally and I can see a difference in him every day. I’m just super proud of him.”

Wests Tigers' Latu Fainu has struggled with injury for years but has finally got his chance to win the No.7 jersey long term. Picture: NRL Photos

Wests Tigers' Latu Fainu has struggled with injury for years but has finally got his chance to win the No.7 jersey long term. Picture: NRL Photos
Asked what advice he had given his brother as he waged war with his body, Samuela said: “Everyone goes through their fair share of adversity in life. I just told him, once you get over it, you will be happier.

“Seeing him get his opportunity shows that it really made him as a person.”

THE PRODIGY

As a teenager, the youngest of the Fainu brothers was considered a sure thing. A can’t miss. Manly had him on their books and handed him a deal worth in excess of $1 million when he was just 16.


He was earmarked as a long-term half for the Sea Eagles but the relationship between the Fainu's and Manly turned sour when officials fell out with then-recruitment boss Scott Fulton.

Fulton had discovered the Fainu's and taken them to Manly. When Fulton moved to the Wests Tigers, and Manly needed to free up some salary cap space, the Fainu's became expendable.

Samuela Fainu (right) and Latu (left) during their time at the Manly Sea Eagles. Picture: Richard Dobson

Samuela Fainu (right) and Latu (left) during their time at the Manly Sea Eagles. Picture: Richard Dobson
“It was definitely hard,” Samuela Fainu said.

“We just went through some things that we can’t talk about. Us leaving Manly really hit us. Right now we’re just living in the present, not living in the past or future.

“That’s what’s making us happy.”

Along with older brother Sione, the Fainu's are at the forefront of attempts to revive the Tigers. Results haven’t always gone their way this season but the signs are encouraging.

They loss to Canberra last weekend was a snapshot of their season. The Tigers got off to a slow start but showed plenty of pluck and courage to give themselves a shot at victory, only to fall agonisingly short.

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Latu Fainu was pivotal. Having entered the fray, the 20-year-old almost inspired a Tigers win. No-one at the Tigers – or Manly for that matter – was surprised. He never played first grade for the Sea Eagles but his reputation preceded him.

“I’ve always seen that talent,” Manly prop Toa Sipley said.

“He’s always been a player from the small time that I got to do a pre-season with him, a very talented kid. Always needed his hands on the ball for sure.

“It’s just good to see him getting his the limelight now I guess.

Fainu was earmarked as a long-term half for the Sea Eagles, before falling out with the club. Picture: Manly Media

Fainu was earmarked as a long-term half for the Sea Eagles, before falling out with the club. Picture: Manly Media

THE SPONGE

Jarome Luai didn’t know a lot about Latu Fainu when he arrived at the Wests Tigers, but one performance was etched in his memory.

Luai had watched Fainu playing a starring role alongside Samuela for the NSW under 19 side two years ago.

“That was my first experience of him and what he was capable of,” Luai said.

“I’d like to say I was a pretty big fan after watching that game of him and Samuela. So other than that I didn’t see much or you have much to do with him.

“But before I even came in here, all the boys were talking him up especially Api (Koroisau). He’s been a bit unlucky so if can string a few games together, some 80 minutes performances and get a feel for the game and what NRL first grade is about, he will kill it bro.”

Samuela (right) and Latu Fainu (left) celebrate after winning the 2019 U19s State of Origin clash for NSW. Picture: NRL Imagery

Samuela (right) and Latu Fainu (left) celebrate after winning the 2019 U19s State of Origin clash for NSW. Picture: NRL Imagery
Latu hasn’t been afraid to seek out Luai for advice. Luai, in turn, has been happy to share his experiences.

“He comes up to me a fair bit, like one-on-one,” Luai said.

“He’s not that guy to sort of really speak in meetings and things like that, which you expect from a young dude. But the fact that he’s come up to me – the first couple of weeks I was here he probably did it the most, to be honest, out of anyone.

“He was trying to learn and pick my brain and my experiences and what he thinks he can help his game. That’s when I really knew he wants to be a good player.

“That’s all you really want from a young dude? Just guys, you want to learn, you want to be at their best. I think that’s the best way to learn is to just pick brains from people who have been through some stuff.

“I’m here for him bro. I’m here to help him be his best.”

Fainu has been watching his premiership winning halves partner Jarome Luai and trying to pick his brain. Picture: Getty Images

Fainu has been watching his premiership winning halves partner Jarome Luai and trying to pick his brain. Picture: Getty Images

HEADING HOME

In the eyes of many, Friday night will be a glimpse into the future for the Tigers. Following Lachlan Galvin’s departure and the failure to sign Brisbane veteran Adam Reynolds, Fainu is now favoured to become a long-term halves partner for Luai.

“He’s a real conservative I think personality,” Luai said.

“But he sort of has this characteristic where you know, he’s going to get the job done. He just goes about his work, doesn’t say much, but he just goes after blokes in defence.

“That’s a sort of like a bit of a trigger to know that this guy is a football player, you know what I mean? He goes after the contact.

“He’s got that quiet passive aggression about him. Like I said it doesn’t say much but he takes it all in. He’s real intelligent as well with the cues around the game and things like that.

Fainu will take on his former team, when the Wests Tigers take on Manly in Round 17. Picture: Getty Images

Fainu will take on his former team, when the Wests Tigers take on Manly in Round 17. Picture: Getty Images
“He is a real prospect of the game, and he’s go so much for footy in front of him. So hopefully you can stay on the field. I can’t really speak on his behalf about what he’s gone through and I’ve been pretty lucky with injuries, touch wood.

“But I know the footy that he has played is pretty crazy, especially from someone who’s been out for long periods of time. “He’s young, he hasn’t had much training, hasn’t had much game time as well. So to come out here this year and play like he has, I think he is exactly what our team needs.”

Having watched this younger brother plumb the depths of rugby league, Samuela Fainu’s only hope is that he can string together some games and become the player many had predicted.

“I just hope he has a good run in footy,” Samuela said.

“He’s a freak of a talent. I just hope he does his thing and goes well in it.”

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Not this again, geez, how many times does it need to be explained that Tartak shopped them to Wests when Scott Fulton got sacked from here & went there, then tried to bend Manly over to offer more than the $1m a season Wests had offered Sione & Fainu as a job lot?

At that time we were trying to keep Schuster, because Tartak also threatened to take him to Wests (until Benji said he wasn't interested) & used him as leverage to bend the club over too.

Manly did what they thought was the right thing at the time in keeping Schuster, which unfortunately didn't work out, but who has a crystal ball when it comes to mental health?

So how about we frame this in a different way & say that the brothers were perfectly happy to go along with their manager Tartak's attempts to screw Manly over to keep them & Schuster, after Manly had stood by the Fainu family all through Manase's trial process, even moving the whole family to the Northern Beaches to help keep them away from gang influences, keeping Manase contracted, & paying Latu more than any other junior for 3 years, in which he didn't play a single first grade game for us?
 
Don ] t mind Bret Read in general as a mainstream sports Jurno but not showing a lot of perspective here .
No way any pragmatic club would have matched those 500 K contract offers for Latu and Sam by the West Tigers at the end of the 23 season .
Well a couple of clubs may have got a little bit closer for Sam Fainu but Latu was struggling in so many areas at the time and the Brooks option for Manly seemed certainly the way to go also at the time and with D C E still expected to be playing on for quite a bit longer .
Even now with Jake , Ola and Tent , probably taking up in the vicinity of 2.3 Mil or so in the cap at the time , probably could have only offered Sam about 300K to stay .
Different matter if Jake had started his downward projectory cap wise from 23 but unfortunately , not until after next season if he still wishes to continue on and he still has something worthwhile to offer
 
I hope he has a good career but the last thing we needed was another guy with constant hamstring problems, especially at his age.
 
At this stage, he has done 9/10s of **** all at NRL level. Hardly the end of the world when we had a couple of rep level halves in front of him at the time, and have purchased a couple of other young guys that are rated at a similar level to him

Some could say Brooks hasn’t done a lot for us, but at the time, Brooks for 600 or Latu for 500 is a no brainer at a club which thinks it has a decent squad ready to go
 
Don ] t mind Bret Read in general as a mainstream sports Jurno but not showing a lot of perspective here .
No way any pragmatic club would have matched those 500 K contract offers for Latu and Sam by the West Tigers at the end of the 23 season .
Well a couple of clubs may have got a little bit closer for Sam Fainu but Latu was struggling in so many areas at the time and the Brooks option for Manly seemed certainly the way to go also at the time and with D C E still expected to be playing on for quite a bit longer .
Even now with Jake , Ola and Tent , probably taking up in the vicinity of 2.3 Mil or so in the cap at the time , probably could have only offered Sam about 300K to stay .
Different matter if Jake had started his downward projectory cap wise from 23 but unfortunately , not until after next season if he still wishes to continue on and he still has something worthwhile to offer

I’m pretty sure the brothers where all but signed to the Dolphins before finally agreeing to term with the Tigers. Bennet disliked the way Sam acted in the under 20s nsw game or post match that ruined the dolphins contract for the boys.
The opportunity feel at Fulton and the Tigers lap as the Dolphins contract fell through due to the behaviour of Sam.
 
Not this again, geez, how many times does it need to be explained that Tartak shopped them to Wests when Scott Fulton got sacked from here & went there, then tried to bend Manly over to offer more than the $1m a season Wests had offered Sione & Fainu as a job lot?

At that time we were trying to keep Schuster, because Tartak also threatened to take him to Wests (until Benji said he wasn't interested) & used him as leverage to bend the club over too.

Manly did what they thought was the right thing at the time in keeping Schuster, which unfortunately didn't work out, but who has a crystal ball when it comes to mental health?

So how about we frame this in a different way & say that the brothers were perfectly happy to go along with their manager Tartak's attempts to screw Manly over to keep them & Schuster, after Manly had stood by the Fainu family all through Manase's trial process, even moving the whole family to the Northern Beaches to help keep them away from gang influences, keeping Manase contracted, & paying Latu more than any other junior for 3 years, in which he didn't play a single first grade game for us?
Two sides to every story.

And or narrative.
 
To be honest I laugh when I see these comments , it’s sad but you can’t keep them all.

JWH, what a pity , Manly tried everything but a huge contract from the Rorters gazumped that.

Gutherson , behind Stewart and then Turbo , what was the club to do ???

There are many others who were sitting behind existing players over the years , sad to lose them but what was the club to do??

Latu Fainu, sitting behind existing players, the Dollar Chaser ( who at that stage was thought to be there for 3-4 more years …from that point ….) & Luke Brooks. Along come the Tigers , offer him & his brother big contracts and really what was the club to do ???

It’s not always a “ stuff up”.
 
Don ] t mind Bret Read in general as a mainstream sports Jurno but not showing a lot of perspective here .
No way any pragmatic club would have matched those 500 K contract offers for Latu and Sam by the West Tigers at the end of the 23 season .
Well a couple of clubs may have got a little bit closer for Sam Fainu but Latu was struggling in so many areas at the time and the Brooks option for Manly seemed certainly the way to go also at the time and with D C E still expected to be playing on for quite a bit longer .
Even now with Jake , Ola and Tent , probably taking up in the vicinity of 2.3 Mil or so in the cap at the time , probably could have only offered Sam about 300K to stay .
Different matter if Jake had started his downward projectory cap wise from 23 but unfortunately , not until after next season if he still wishes to continue on and he still has something worthwhile to offer
It’s simple. Brent Read is mates with Peters, who in turn is probably still mates with Scott and co.

So when an opportunity like this presents itself, why not have a crack at the current Manly administration? Rather than take a closer look at a problematic (understatement) family and the ridiculous lengths the club previously went to, to keep the Fainu clan happy.
 
The club has made more than it's fair share of stuff ups... but losing this lot wasn't one of them given how much money they wanted. I've still not seen what the fuss is all about with them anyway. Water under the bridge, spilled milk.

No doubt this sort of sentiment would only increase if the Tigers beat us as I half expect them to - but that's not cause that lot are superstars it's because we are a verging on a joke.
 
They should have kept him. They had him signed beyond 2015, then Cyclone Bob got involved.

In Gutherson’s case, it was a stuff up.
Okay , going back to then where does he play ??

Dollar Chaser @ 7
Foran @ 6
Stewart ( not sure of the dates here ) or Turbo @ 1

Gutherson then gets offered a run in fullback job at Parramatta.

So if it was a stuff up ( and I’m not disputing that it may have been ) but who are you dropping to fit him in ??
 
Okay , going back to then where does he play ??

Dollar Chaser @ 7
Foran @ 6
Stewart ( not sure of the dates here ) or Turbo @ 1

Gutherson then gets offered a run in fullback job at Parramatta.

So if it was a stuff up ( and I’m not disputing that it may have been ) but who are you dropping to fit him in ??
He was re-signed as a centre in Apr 15, with the ability to fill in at fullback when Tom wasn’t available. That as we know, is a lot of the time.

Plus he could also play on the wing and at five eighth. By now he might rival the likes of Frank Stanton, Ian Martin, or the great Alan Thompson as one of the finest utility players produced by Manly’s junior league. In fact he already is. Unfortunately he had to prove it at two other clubs.

Meanwhile, players like Lyon and Matai, not to mention Brett Stewart, were only a year or so away from retirement when Gutherson was axed. I am sure Gutherson would have been happy to wait, otherwise why sign a two year extension in early 2015?

This has been covered so many times. Our winning percentage in the intervening years might have been somewhat greater, if Gutherson had been allowed to stay.
 
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