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First Grader
I know a few people will probably disagree but I am so sick and tired of all this media inflated rubbish about how "sexually impressionable" teenage/adolescent girls are.

I refer to this article,23599,21262088-2,00.html as a recent example.

One section of the article contains this comment:

Based on a comprehensive review of academic literature, the 66-page report noted that young adolescents and girls were particularly at risk "because their sense of self is still being formed".

School performance can also suffer. In one experiment cited, college-aged women were asked to try on and evaluate either a swimsuit or a sweater. While they waited for 10 minutes while wearing the garment, they completed a math test.

"The results revealed that young women in swimsuits performed significantly worse ... than those wearing sweaters. No difference were found for young men."

This could have been caused by a thousand different factors, this is possibly the most absurd "experiment" I have ever heard of.

Now dont get me wrong I am all for banning wafer thin models and those women that are clearly unhealthy on catwalks etc. However, why should we want to hide healthy, atractive women from the public eye. Why should we feel the need to "cover up" a cheerleaders mid rif area. Is it wrong to promote exercise and healthiness because of the pressure it might put on some overweight teenager.

I just think it all gets taken too far.

The Wheel
Premium Member
It could be because the girls in swim suits are down at the beach instead of studying where as the girls in sweaters are sitting in their bedroon doing school.

All in all sexual awareness & frustration has been going on for thousands of years and it should not be blamed on any recent issues that have cropped up in scoiety.

I would say it is more to do with lack of parental control due to high divorce rates etc and the new technoligical age where you can sit & do nothing and still achieve.

Whereas for many any years to succeed at life you had to get off you butt and work for it.

Any way that is my thought for today


Journey Man
a true experiment would have had them naked not in swimsuits.

And come with pictures.

Have to agree here. They could live up to the term...
All ass, and no class - literally - hehehehe :lol: :lol: :lol:


Journey Man
Thousands of years ago they were betrothed at puberty. These days there is a gap of fifteen years between puberty and a commitment to a monogomous relationship.

But I think they're barking up the wrong tree. I suspect the insecurities of most of the insecure comes from sexual abuse at a younger age - it is rife.


Winging it
Clothing and cosmetic companies have taken a stand in pushing 'sexiness' down to the female Tween market. This is basically those between 8 to 12. IMO this causes pressures on CHILDREN who should be enjoying a carefree life. This is added to by pushy parents who insist that their precious becomes a leader of the kid's peer group along with assisting with the prestige of the parents themselves.

I am surrounded by this anywhere on the northern side of the bridge and it is probably worse in the eastern suburbs. I have seen 12 yo girls wanting to know just how hot their butt is in certain clothes etc. To me they are kids and this latest trend which has been going on for almost 5 years is disgusting.

In general I agree with you Clon. The experiment is a complete waste of time. What is, has always been for a very long time and when they get to their mid to late teens then life's reality checks have already kicked in. I also don't have anything good to say about musicians singing about their bitches/hos and treating all women in the clips as some form of personal adornment.


Journey Man
Newly bald Britney Spears has checked herself back into rehab after a weekend of excessive partying and unsavoury exhibitionism, just another young woman self-destructing in front of our eyes.

There has been no sign of the 25-year-old singer's two young sons amid the crotch-flashing, mascara-smeared, vomit-specked nightclubbing that preceded her impulsive head-shave at a Los Angeles salon - an act psychologists have interpreted as an existential cry for help.

But Spears's meltdown is more than just her personal tragedy. Sexualised almost since her days as a Disney child star, she is the canary in the coalmine of troubled young womanhood.

As other celebrity car crashes - Lindsay Lohan, Nicole Richie, Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith - pile up, it is clear something is terribly wrong with the fairer sex.

Lohan, who has also flashed her shaven crotch at the paparazzi during partying binges, was last week spotted leaving an Los Angeles rehab clinic to go straight to a nightclub. Yet, like the sad minxes in Sex and the City, she has declared she just wants to get married and have a child.

As for Smith, who spent the last few years of her life in a substance-addled stupor before dying two weeks ago, aged 39, she had become a cartoon sex object, used and abused by everyone who came in contact with her. We watched helplessly, if we cared at all, as she committed slow suicide in public.

Spears inhabits the same space, her increasingly desperate exhibitionism, non-stop inebriation and casual couplings with numerous forgettable men chronicled in lascivious detail by gossip websites and magazines. We have so normalised self-destructive slutty behaviour that Spears's antics were considered the natural reaction of a young woman letting down her hair after a marriage breakdown.

Until it all got too much. One witness to the shearing scene claimed Spears said she was shaving her hair off because she was "sick of people touching her". One psychologist said the act was an attempt to repel male attention.

In a world saturated with pornography, when women treat themselves like sluts, why would men treat them any differently? Mutual respect between the sexes, romance and a legacy of chivalry by men entranced by the feminine mystique have been trashed in the name of female equality and sexual liberation.

Now Valentine's Day, once a time for love hearts, flowers and romantic cards, has been hijacked by radical feminists in the United States as V-Day - either a day to celebrate vaginas or to raise awareness of violence against women.

And judging by Cleo magazine, a one-night stand is almost elaborate courtship. Next month's Cleo catalogues a new sex trend: "The curiosity shag: dying to know what he's like in bed? This could be the way to find out. No strings attached." But the problem is, with women, there invariably are emotional strings attached to sexual encounters.

Evolutionary psychology is providing confirmation of what most people instinctively know - men are hard-wired to want more sex than women, more casual sex, more often, and with more partners, because there is an evolutionary advantage to spreading their sperm far and wide and fathering lots of children.

Women, who need nine months to produce a child, have no such biological imperative, goes the theory. Instead they are hard-wired to form emotional attachments with a male who will protect them and their children.

Launching straight into sex before even the first date was a hallmark of the sexual revolution, a way women could emulate men and jettison the emotional baggage of romantic love that had supposedly held them back for generations.

But no matter how hard they try to live up to the old feminist ideal of "zipless f---s", invariably women get hurt.

Take the celebrated "mile high club" scandal on Qantas. A flight attendant, Lisa Robertson, has told how she initiated sex with the actor Ralph Fiennes on a flight from Darwin to Mumbai, leading him into a toilet cubicle for a quickie.

"I'm going to have to kick you out now," Fiennes said suavely after a later rendezvous in his hotel room, according to the account of events she sold to the Daily Mail newspaper. "See you on the next Qantas flight." But for a woman who seems to embody the liberated female's attitude to casual sex, Robertson seemed overly concerned with feelings.

She said she had hoped the relationship would continue and was "hurt and disappointed" that Fiennes wouldn't support her when she was sacked. To Robertson "the experience was a lot more than just about sex". But men are wired differently. No amount of brainwashing and SNAG-ification will change that.

A study released this week by the American Psychological Association warned of the psychological harm being done to women by the increasing sexualisation of society.

"Sexualisation of girls is a broad and increasing problem," said the study, and it could cause psychological and physical harm to young women and girls as young as four. Imagery of "sexed-up" little girls and women posing as adolescents could lead to depression, eating disorders and poor academic performance.

If you ever needed proof that women were the losers in the sexual revolution here it is. It is time women seized back their inner prude.

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Journey Man
Jeez guys - your taking this all too seriously. Who doesn't enjoy viewing a bit / or lack of skirt occassionally? We ARE red blooded males.
How about enjoying a bevvie, relaxing, and appreciating what God in his right mind has put on this great world of ours.
The woman's form is a beautiful thing my friends. A beautiful thing. Well - most are anyways.


Winging it
Mata took his post from Miranda Devine in the SMH today.

In the spirit of ZipperFish Ryan, enjoy:



Kim Jong Dan
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Tipping Member
wouldnt matter if they werent wearing them you couldnt tell if it were a woman or not because of the beards

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