On another note Austin Dias going pretty well for us in NSW Cup right now.....
Just remember we also have Condon and Sykes coming through. Sipley can't get a crack at the seventeen so far. Fifita was actually sitting well back in the pecking order, and Tuitavake even more so. This is a situation where we need to trust the judgement of the coaching team, and the retention and recruitment committee.
 
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Look , I get that people are pissed but look at this way.

Every player wants a first grade gig.

It’s like Gutherson , who was behind Turbo , does he stay and play Reggie’s or does he go to another club promising him a starting position every week.

It’s not rocket science is it !!

The two players couldn’t see a way forward at Manly and so their manager gets them a first grade run on spot at another club , is anyone surprised they’d take it ????

It’s the fact we are getting Woods in return that’s pissing people off , but look at it this way.

Woods is in his last year , he’s probably not costing us a cracker , and the departure of two may allow Gordie Three Names to be elevated.

Woods can be a fill in, during an injury situation , otherwise he won’t get a game.

The kids had decided to go next year anyway.

I think it’s a sad loss but a win / win for 2023.
 
Look , I get that people are pissed but look at this way.

Every player wants a first grade gig.

It’s like Gutherson , who was behind Turbo , does he stay and play Reggie’s or does he go to another club promising him a starting position every week.

It’s not rocket science is it !!

The two players couldn’t see a way forward at Manly and so their manager gets them a first grade run on spot at another club , is anyone surprised they’d take it ????

It’s the fact we are getting Woods in return that’s pissing people off , but look at it this way.

Woods is in his last year , he’s probably not costing us a cracker , and the departure of two may allow Gordie Three Names to be elevated.

Woods can be a fill in, during an injury situation , otherwise he won’t get a game.

The kids had decided to go next year anyway.

I think it’s a sad loss but a win / win for 2023.
Well put Mark you can’t hold it against Fifita and Tuitavake for trying to get a crack at establishing themselves in the top grade.

The disappointing part is Mestrov made a statement saying the retention committee knocked back the Fifita release.
 
Well put Mark you can’t hold it against Fifita and Tuitavake for trying to get a crack at establishing themselves in the top grade.

The disappointing part is Mestrov made a statement saying the retention committee knocked back the Fifita release.
@Dion Johnson Initially, he said the manager (Tartak) had made a formal release request, and that request was being taken to the recruitment and retention committee.

“There has been no release at this stage,” Mestrov told News Corp.

“At this stage it will go before our retention committee.”

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No he didnt @Dion Johnson He said the manager (Tartak) had made a formal release request, and that request was being taken to the recruitment and retention committee.

“There has been no release at this stage,” Mestrov told News Corp.

“At this stage it will go before our retention committee.”
I could be wrong, though this is one extract from an article.

DRAGONS V MANLY TUG-OF-WAR HEATING UP
The ongoing tug of war between St George Illawarra and Manly has shown some signs of respite after the Dragons secured Alec Tuitavake on a deal until the end of 2025.
Tuitavake will join his new club next week after being caught in the middle of negotiations between the two clubs. Tuitavake, 22, is the nephew of ex-Dragons and Manly forward Solomon Haumono.
The Sea Eagles have granted the former Australian Schoolboy an immediate release. The Dragons remain hopeful of securing fellow Manly prop Viliami Fifita. So far the Sea Eagles have publicly and privately denied Fifita’s request to leave the club.
Fifita has a deal until the end of next year.
Ge has been named to play for Manly’s feeder cup side Blacktown on Saturday.
Tuitavake is still on the comeback from a ruptured ACL but should be fit to return to the field before the end of next month.
He was contracted until the end of this season at Manly.
The Sea Eagles are in talks to upgrade and extend Haumole Olakau’atu and Tolutau Koula.

Link https://archive.md/hyvLT
 
Can’t believe the outrage over 3 players that didn’t play or won’t play much First Grade.The two that are leaving was purely money related.
I could be wrong, though this is one extract from an article.

DRAGONS V MANLY TUG-OF-WAR HEATING UP
The ongoing tug of war between St George Illawarra and Manly has shown some signs of respite after the Dragons secured Alec Tuitavake on a deal until the end of 2025.
Tuitavake will join his new club next week after being caught in the middle of negotiations between the two clubs. Tuitavake, 22, is the nephew of ex-Dragons and Manly forward Solomon Haumono.
The Sea Eagles have granted the former Australian Schoolboy an immediate release. The Dragons remain hopeful of securing fellow Manly prop Viliami Fifita. So far the Sea Eagles have publicly and privately denied Fifita’s request to leave the club.
Fifita has a deal until the end of next year.
Ge has been named to play for Manly’s feeder cup side Blacktown on Saturday.
Tuitavake is still on the comeback from a ruptured ACL but should be fit to return to the field before the end of next month.
He was contracted until the end of this season at Manly.
The Sea Eagles are in talks to upgrade and extend Haumole Olakau’atu and Tolutau Koula.

Link https://archive.md/hyvLT
That was from earlier in the week
 
I don't care if Woods is a Manly supporter. He can join silvertails and post like everyone else. He is on the way out. His stats have been on the decline and he is overdue for a haircut.
 
No he didnt @Dion Johnson He said the manager (Tartak) had made a formal release request, and that request was being taken to the recruitment and retention committee.

“There has been no release at this stage,” Mestrov told News Corp.

“At this stage it will go before our retention committee.”
This is the link that quotes Mestrov’s statement.

We’re not releasing him’: Dragons, Sea Eagles in tug-of-war for rising star​

Michael Chammas

By Michael Chammas

March 20, 2023 — 5.00am
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Manly are set to go to war with a leading player agent, digging in their heels over the future of rising star Viliami Fifita in a tug-of-war for his services with St George Illawarra.
Despite his manager Mario Tartak indicating to the Dragons that the dynamic front-rower will be released from the final two years of his deal to join the club, Manly aren’t giving in.


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Tartak was under the impression Fifita would be able to take up a deal with the Dragons despite having two years to run on his deal, but Manly are adamant that won’t be the case.
“We’re not releasing him,” Sea Eagles chief executive Tony Mestrov said of the 22-year-old, who is expected to debut for the club this year. “He has a two-year contract. He’s a quality young front-rower and he’s staying here. He’s spoken to the club and declared his wish to stay here.”
Tartak once had a stronghold at the club when it came to recruitment and retention. His close relationship with recruitment manager Scott Fulton saw many of the best young players in western Sydney sign with the Sea Eagles.
The club’s reliance on a new recruitment and retention committee, which Mestrov now sits on, has diluted Fulton’s voice and diminished Tartak’s power at the club despite having a number of key players on the roster.
Viliami Fifita is at the centre of a tug of war.

Viliami Fifita is at the centre of a tug of war.CREDIT:GETTY
One of those is back-rower Haumole Olakau’atu. Manly fear his future could be used against the club if the relationship between Mestrov and Tartak deteriorates.
Interestingly, this column has also been told the Dragons have had discussions about potentially luring Fulton to the club in a recruitment role.

The Fulton family has strong ties to the Manly club. The recent removal of Kristie Fulton – the daughter of club legend and Immortal Bob Fulton – from an office role and the reduction in Scott’s influence will test those ties.
Mestrov has had a baptism of fire since taking over as CEO at the end of last year. He was heavily criticised over his handling of Des Hasler’s sacking, with the former coach threatening legal action against the club.
Tony Mestrov has had a baptism of fire as CEO.

Tony Mestrov has had a baptism of fire as CEO.CREDIT:JAMES BRICKWOOD
Mestrov’s decision to bring in Anthony Seibold has so far been vindicated with the club sitting on top of the ladder with two wins and a bye.
Seibold was largely considered damaged goods after his failed stint at the Broncos but appears to have resurrected his career on the Northern Beaches.
“This situation he finds himself in at Manly is very similar to when he had success at South Sydney,” Mestrov said.
“He had senior players, like he does now with Daly Cherry-Evans and the Trbojevic brothers. He did well in that environment and gave young players a crack around them like he’s doing now. He’s an astute footy brain.
“He had his challenges at Brisbane but it wasn’t the right environment for him. He’s learnt from his successes and his mistakes.”
 
Dissapointing

I like Woods....as a character....not so much as a footballer these days
 
Moving him along wasnt the mistake ,any other half competent man manager couldve got a promising forward in exchange.
Pretty sure AFB’s manager was Aloiai’s manager or something along those lines so it seemed a pretty natural replacement (i have come to not rate aloiai nowadays though)
 

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