2025 recruitment & retention

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maxta

First Grader
Premium Member
He is on <600K as per Daily Telegraph listing richest players. I'd say 500k at most, given Saab is on like 250k.

"The team is only as strong as it's weakest link"

The weakest link on the goal line is Garrick. I'm a Garrick defender, and even to me, that is obvious enough. However, if you got rid of Garrick, they'd start targeting Talau, Koula, or someone else. Thinking that he's the difference between us now and conceding 100 less points in a season is flawed. The team's true weakest link is our pathetic defence through the middle, and lack of commitment to winning games. If it's not Garrick they'll find someone else, when they march through us to the goal line.
Great post 💯
 

Adz

Reserve Grader
He is on <600K as per Daily Telegraph listing richest players. I'd say 500k at most, given Saab is on like 250k.

"The team is only as strong as it's weakest link"

The weakest link on the goal line is Garrick. I'm a Garrick defender, and even to me, that is obvious enough. However, if you got rid of Garrick, they'd start targeting Talau, Koula, or someone else. Thinking that he's the difference between us now and conceding 100 less points in a season is flawed. The team's true weakest link is our pathetic defence through the middle, and lack of commitment to winning games. If it's not Garrick they'll find someone else, when they march through us to the goal line.
Lack of commitment to winning games....,.seriously up there with dumbest view of the year.
This side has been been in every game this year.
 

BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
Lack of commitment to winning games....,.seriously up there with dumbest view of the year.
This side has been been in every game this year.
Lack of respect for other posters views is calling them dumb
I do do agree with your views feathered friend @Adz
Consistency is the key to be in every game
This side has been inconsistent all year /Win one lose two /Win two lose one
and could only manage 3 wins in a row just once
round 1 win
round 2 win
round 3 loss
round 4 loss
round 5 win
round 6 draw
round 7 win
round 8 win
round 9 loss
round 10 loss
round 11 loss
round 12win
round 13 bye
round 13 loss
round 15 win
round 16 loss
round 17 bye
round 18 win
round 19 win
round 20 win
round 21 loss
round 22 bye
round 23 win
round 24 win
round 25 loss
round 26 win
round 27 and our last home game against the Sharks where a win would secure us a finals home game but our inconsistency through out the season shone through once again as the Sharks humiliated us in front of our supporters by 40 points to 20

And our 40 points capitulation semi final seasons exit against the Roosters side which was missing their key spine players in walker and smith was another Icing on our Inconsistent seasons cake that Seibold baked
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Phobia

Reserve Grader
This side has been been in every game this year.
And that is certainly a great improvement.

The issue is taking it to the 80 minute mark. Far too many times did we lose focus and let the other side walk back into the game. It's purely related to game management, and the team needs to have the belief that they can hold out. We were competitive on the scoreboard, but on far too many occasions, this would only be for 40 minutes, and we would be run down from behind. It's something we improved on towards the backend (that Tigers game was some BS), but it's still the same lack of commitment to defending through the middle, and letting sloppy errors and ruck infringements into the picture. Mestrov even said that himself on a podcast.

Those collapses don't happen with a better middle. That includes Mr Ruck Infringements in Jake. He was part of the problem in that regard.
 

Adz

Reserve Grader
Lack of respect for other posters views is calling them dumb
I do do agree with your views feathered friend @Adz
Consistency is the key to be in every game
This side has been inconsistent all year /Win one lose two /Win two lose one
and could only manage 3 wins in a row just once
round 1 win
round 2 win
round 3 loss
round 4 loss
round 5 win
round 6 draw
round 7 win
round 8 win
round 9 loss
round 10 loss
round 11 loss
round 12win
round 13 bye
round 13 loss
round 15 win
round 16 loss
round 17 bye
round 18 win
round 19 win
round 20 win
round 21 loss
round 22 bye
round 23 win
round 24 win
round 25 loss
round 26 win
round 27 and our last home game against the Sharks where a win would secure us a finals home game but our inconsistency through out the season shone through once again as the Sharks humiliated us in front of our supporters by 40 points to 20

And our 40 points capitulation semi final seasons exit against the Roosters side which was missing their key spine players in walker and smith was another Icing on our Inconsistent seasons cake that Seibold baked
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Aw,that is awesome,but has nothing to do with what I said,once again.
 

LeonardCohen

Bencher
And that is certainly a great improvement.

The issue is taking it to the 80 minute mark. Far too many times did we lose focus and let the other side walk back into the game. It's purely related to game management, and the team needs to have the belief that they can hold out. We were competitive on the scoreboard, but on far too many occasions, this would only be for 40 minutes, and we would be run down from behind. It's something we improved on towards the backend (that Tigers game was some BS), but it's still the same lack of commitment to defending through the middle, and letting sloppy errors and ruck infringements into the picture. Mestrov even said that himself on a podcast.

Those collapses don't happen with a better middle. That includes Mr Ruck Infringements in Jake. He was part of the problem in that regard.
I agree with the poor middle/ruck defence but I don't think it's a lack of commitment. It happened far too often for it to be an issue of mental application. There's a footballing matter at play; we've got a sluggish pack and eventually the middle opens up as a result. They're trying but they're ineffective.
 
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manly al

First Grader
Seems a bit counter productive to be considering letting go the likes of Koula , Garrick or Saab to try and bring in forward talent
Koula when fully fit , one of the better broken field runners and finishers in the comp , Garrick either at centre and wing and with his goal kicking value , a definite asset and Saab , most likely the fastest player in the comp and regularly a serious weapon in attacking ability
Apparently , can just about cater for the likes of Batman on reasonable terms [ or if applicable ] , does 't seem to be much indication of interest in May and not much of genuine ability in the forwards department available in any case right now apart from these two considerations .
Continues to be a bit of a dubious call retaining Alioai but who knows , maybe he can somehow start producing good , consistent efforts again .
Maybe there is already an intended plan to accommodate young Hoppa on a longer term basis right now and another reason for the intention to pretty much keep the status quo at present .
 

jbb/james

First Grader
Premium Member
Tipping Member
And that is certainly a great improvement.

The issue is taking it to the 80 minute mark. Far too many times did we lose focus and let the other side walk back into the game. It's purely related to game management, and the team needs to have the belief that they can hold out. We were competitive on the scoreboard, but on far too many occasions, this would only be for 40 minutes, and we would be run down from behind. It's something we improved on towards the backend (that Tigers game was some BS), but it's still the same lack of commitment to defending through the middle, and letting sloppy errors and ruck infringements into the picture. Mestrov even said that himself on a podcast.

Those collapses don't happen with a better middle. That includes Mr Ruck Infringements in Jake. He was part of the problem in that regard.
We seem to think our way to winning is by blowing teams off the park

If we get early ball, points, we chuck the whole house on attack, but dont have the style or fitness to go 80 minutes. Besides refs always bring teams back into it so our lead is token

When oppositions gets the ball, the usual doubtful suspects appear in the brains of a team that has been run down so many times its kind of sad. And every team and coach in the comp knows our style because its been the same for a decade. It will take a few years of different results to change the belief in this side if the same dudes drive us around the park. There limitations mentally are directly aligned with the teams resilience IMO

Give the manly fish some line, let in run itself out of puff and reel it in the 60 minute nark. Dont fight it, it yields, and there is bigger fish to catch still
 

XV-1

First Grader
Now Seibold wants to moneybags a 33 year old forward to Manly - Siosiua Taukeiaho. He had his contract ripped up by the Catalans Dragons.

Will this ever stop?

 

Andyvb88

Reserve Grader
Now Seibold wants to moneybags a 33 year old forward to Manly - Siosiua Taukeiaho. He had his contract ripped up by the Catalans Dragons.

Will this ever stop?

I think being a train and trial contract it could be worth the risk
 

jbb/james

First Grader
Premium Member
Tipping Member
I think being a train and trial contract it could be worth the risk
Im just assuming its a train and trial until we unload someone. Its just a pre committment . I dont think there is any real risk unless its injury related. If he comes he is on the waiting list, not trialing
 

Adz

Reserve Grader
Im just assuming its a train and trial until we unload someone. Its just a pre committment . I dont think there is any real risk unless its injury related. If he comes he is on the waiting list, not trialing
To me it is more like a landscaper.
The landscaper shows the potential customer some pictures,saying here is my work and how good I am,pay me now before the job is done.
The customer says,no thanks,here is a deposit for supplies,I will pay you later when you show me you are committed and following through on the job and prove it to me.
There are some dodgy landscapers out there.
 

jbb/james

First Grader
Premium Member
Tipping Member
To me it is more like a landscaper.
The landscaper shows the potential customer some pictures,saying here is my work and how good I am,pay me now before the job is done.
The customer says,no thanks,here is a deposit for supplies,I will pay you later when you show me you are committed and following through on the job and prove it to me.
There are some dodgy landscapers out there.
Just checking, are you explaining the train and trial concept or how that x rooster is being counted on manlys books and intentions

There are some dodgy every MF ers out there too just quietly , but im happy to rag on landscapers today , probably need one in next year so not sure how i should play this overall , with karma and stuff. Gonna get screwed now its out there ,
 
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24 17 7 186 40
24 16 8 275 38
24 16 8 222 38
24 15 9 89 36
24 14 10 96 34
24 13 10 113 33
24 12 12 -40 30
24 12 12 -127 30
24 11 13 -1 28
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24 10 14 -70 26
24 9 14 -62 25
24 8 16 -168 22
24 7 17 -155 20
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