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  1. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    It's all here: https://voice.gov.au/resources/indigenous-voice-co-design-process-final-report Or at least this forms the framework for what Albo intends to put to the parliament to vote on. It's worth noting that this report was commissioned by Ken Wyatt under the previous Liberal government to...
  2. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    Briggs and a few other notables had a music festival in Shepparton over the weekend to support the yes vote.....Have a listen to the following from the 27 minute mark (I'm sorry its another lefty source)...They actually managed to find the two from the video in the wild :rofl::banghead...
  3. MuzztheEagle

    I call on you '"Almighty Football God's"

    Maybe get some chicken blood on Turbo's hammies? On second though....he might need a full bath of the stuff @:D
  4. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    Probably a better question for one of our resident lawyers than me. But it's my understanding, and I believe it's been made fairly clear, that the voice will not have any impact on laws unless the government of the day decides to legislate one. And I genuinely can't imagine that happening, not...
  5. MuzztheEagle

    Going to Vegas

    Yeah, I can't imagine RL ever making serious inroads in the US. With the amount that soccer has grown over there and mainly due to parents concerns around concussion risk to their kids, people are likely to freak out at the idea of big hits without head protection (even when wearing helmets...
  6. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    Thanks for sharing, I'm really glad that people have been willing to actually discuss the problems. There's plenty to unpack here, so I might pick out a few things that jump out at me when I get the time. Let's start with the one above. I think there are three questions we need to ask ourselves...
  7. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    A thought on the "land claims popping up everywhere" comment. The native title act has been around since 1993 and is still the main precedent by which indigenous groups will use for land claims (and most of which fail). I'm yet to see a good argument on why the voice would increase the number of...
  8. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    I think this should probably have read first nations communities. Otherwise it give the impression that individuals can simply claim heritage unquestioned and then start claiming perks and benefits (as is already frequently and falsely used to suggest any such things should be removed).
  9. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    A symptom of and a massive problem in our world really....I wonder if I blurt out another 2 or 3 arguments (taking me 5 mins or so) will you be as willing to so eloquently and comprehensively dispute them? And, more importantly, will others be more interested in those responses or will they...
  10. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    Me having a legal argument with you be like....
  11. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    But that's not happening now. And, because we are free nation, all people/s have the right the to: "freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development" - as per article 1 of the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights...
  12. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    Their Lands? I'm sorry but that was a very long time ago. I can't control and am not responsible what happened in the past. It's not like I chose to be part of one group over another at birth, the facts of history are forced upon everyone. Hell, I have plenty of Welsh and Scottish ancestry -...
  13. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    Fair enough, I'll walk it back a bit... Don't first nations people, as citizens of a free country, have already have self determination? At least as much as any of us do
  14. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    Why don't first nations people have self determination? At least more than any other section of society that you could break off?Again, I'd point to people with a disability as having a greater issue as well as say migrants who are disadvantaged with language issues and racism. Would you support...
  15. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    I'm always happy to play devil's advocate...so how about this; We have plenty of other disadvantaged people in our society and many representitive bodies to represent and advocate for them. E.g. Disability, migrants, regional communities. Aren't these people equally deserving of having their...
  16. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    This was (at least partly) covered by 7:30:
  17. MuzztheEagle

    Who do we bring in

    Given that there's undoubtedly no cap left, I doubt there's really anyone that we can bring into first grade. We probably just need to be looking at juniors that we can get to invest in the club long term and can be moved up once we move on the overpriced dead weights. That and some new fitness...
  18. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    I think that is definitely true. But I do think we should be looking for ways for civilized an nuanced discussions to take place. Otherwise, everyone's decision was essentially already made and then just reinforced by their own in-groups. Racism is always going to be a touchy subject and the sad...
  19. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    Im not really surprised by this response. But seriously why the reluctance to answer my question? This genuinely isn't an attempt at a gotcha, I'm trying to understand you position in the hope that future discussions and solutions might be better suited to people like you. But that can't happen...
  20. MuzztheEagle

    Referendum

    There's been plenty of commentary in the past week of how this issue has become a symptom of how polarised political discourse has become. I fear that the majority of voters (on both yes and no) are voting based on political and ideological identity rather than what is best for the nation...

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