How can you compare Gutherson to Hiku. Sure Hiku has his moments but he's an international and completely outplayed Inglis in the biggest Test match in the last 3 years.
Puts things into perspective. I've been his most ardent critic for the way he's carried on. Not one fibre in my body wishes for any harm to him or his family.
Tonight will be the first night for as long as I can remember (At least 15 years) that Manly will not have one player nominated out of the 52 for the positional awards.
100% agree Bozo. Hoppa was close to best on ground in the 2011 decider (I had him @ $41, 50 times for Churchill medal- damn it !). He gave Nielsen an absolute bath in Origin 2 until he went off injured. In a shocking Parramatta team he was still in origin this year.
I would take him back in a...
@ pjayz . Gutherson struggles defensively. Only scored "finishers" tries in 1st grade. He's a Holden, compared to the Ferrari we have in TomT. Seriously, get over his loss. Get behind Barrett as we have a host of young players that posses better qualities than Gutherson.
Panthers may have a superior team, but in Trbojevic and Knight we have the two best players that are u20.
Knight .... is an absolute machine. Can you imagine him and Jake in the front row in 2 seasons.
TomT .. It looks as though he is playing against school children sometimes.
The Leary fascination ? Carrying Buhrer, Brown and Leary in a 17 would be a catastrophe. Leary's weaknesses were demonstrably exposed when filling in for Ballin and when boppers headed his way. Just a toiler .. He'll be useful in lieu of injuries and that's it.
Folks, I initiated this post as I first heard about him when the Dogs and Titans were after him in 2014 after the writing was on the wall for Ballin. I made a point of watching him on TV in the Qld cup and he struck me as a star of the making. He settled for the Broncos, and thank God we have...
Brett Morris is at fullback. Sure some will think I've lost the plot as he's been in stellar form. A strong defender ... Yes. Strong runner ... Yes. Blistering speed ... Yes. However what he has not got and never has is the ability to chime in to the backline and put tries on. Look at the great...
I care. Because his arrogance at leaving Manly high and dry was the ultimate betrayal of trust. He should never ever be welcomed back.
He even tried to take the Tbojevic brothers.
He has the 2nd best resources in all the comp at the Dogs, and has failed to deliver the premiership they payed...
Pre-Game Discussion - Panthers V Manly [Round 8, 2025]