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When do we, the fans, get answers?

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Rex, Mar 17, 2009.

  1. Rex

    Rex Well-Known Member

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    Last week Brett Stewart was given an amazing 4 weeks suspension by the NRL for simply being "refused bar service and asked to leave the premises", under NRL pressure Watmough was apparently given a $10,000 dollars fine, we are told for a minor push away of a person who appeared to be threatening violence, and the NRL fined Manly $100,000 for allowing these two "incidents" to occur (prompting the enquiry and penalties) .  Heavy penalties indeed.  Unprecedented for the nature of the actions they were allegedly responding to.

    Compare these unprecedented and very heavy penalties of Manly and its players with equivalent apparent total inaction in response to the more serious News Ltd Brisbane Broncos incidents, only a few NRL games earlier.

    Watch the report here:
    http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200809/r293758_1259855.asx


    Summary

    1.  The Brisbane Broncos players were banned from a Brisbane nightclub and faced zero tolerance at another nightclub.
    2.  The day after Wayne Bennett's farewell, Darren Lockyer tackled a bar manager when leaving the bar premises.  Apparently he was too intoxicated to remember, initially denying any memory, and only admitting guilt after video evidence conclusively proved it.
    3.  The same night, other Broncos players left the premises with alcohol illegally taken from the bar.  When a manager approached them to put the illegally-taken alcohol back he was pushed aside by the player(s).
    4.  On the weekend three Broncos players (Karmichael Hunt, Darrius Boyd and Sam Thaiday were named) were alleged to have sexually assaulted a woman in a Brisbane nightclub toilet with one of them allegedly taking mobile phone shots of the act.

    Response
    The NRL response was to interpret these incidents as resulting from alcohol abuse.  The NRL said it was sick of the Friday Night drinking that lasts till Monday. David Gallop said "If you give the green light to lengthy drinking sessions, then the potential for a problem is far, far greater".
    But David Gallop stopped short of disciplining the clubs.
    He said "They have an obligation to impose discipline, to build standards"

    In both instances, Gallop ignored the sexual assault allegations, under the presumption of innocence and allowing Police and Court processes to follow their course.

    So will David Gallop and the NRL provide answers to the obvious inconsistencies in the other matters, as queried by fans, including:

    1.  Why does Gallop regard Stewart simply being refused alcohol and being asked to leave a premises, and complying without any incident, as worthy of an unprecedented four weeks suspension, whereas an alcohol affected Lockyer tackling a bar manager and apparently being so drunk that he couldn't even remember that incident is worthy of no suspension at all?  And if Stewart is penalised more heavily because he was the face of rugby league for being in a commercial, then why isn't Lockyer penalised more heavily as the chosen leader and captain of Brisbane, Queensland and Australia - a far more responsible and senior position? And how is a single night of alcohol use at Manly seen by Gallop as more serious than the "Friday Night drinking that lasts till Monday" which he associated with the News Ltd Broncos incidents?

    2.  How can a simple Watmough push of a sponsor (resolved between those parties) be viewed by Gallop as more serious than Brisbane Broncos players pushing and ignoring a bar manager who was asking them to return alcohol they were illegally removing from that Bar manager's premises? 

    3.  If the timing of Brett Stewart's incident before the season starts is seen as serious by Gallop, then why isn't the timing of the Darren Lockyer and other Broncos incidents seen as at least as serious, occurring during the NRL finals series - the very climax and highlight, and highest-rating period of the NRL premiership season?

    4.  Why was the Brisbane Broncos decision to not penalise Lockyer, and other Broncos players, and to allow them all to continue playing accepted by Gallop as sufficient discipline, whereas Manly's decision to do the same for apparently lesser offenses was described by Gallop as arrogant, unacceptable and was fined $100,000?

    How can we fans have confidence in the NRL until such basic questions are openly and directly answered? To-date Gallop has avoided answering these questions directly or openly.
     
  2. Canteen Worker

    Canteen Worker Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Cracker of a post - very good questions!!!!
     
  3. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Like I said before, I'm all for the NRL and Gallop drawing a line in the sand and punishing breaches of their Code of Conduct. What I can't cop is why have they chosen to retrospectively apply it to Brett Stewart as their first get tough stance . Gutless act, and even more spineless by refusing to justify their decision as to why Brett is the one who is made an example of. Their "high profile player" excuse is a spin job that doesn't wash because we've seen plenty of players, of equal or higher standing than Brett, guilty of the same breaches he has been suspended for. Gallop panicked and buckled to the media pressure. He needs to go, he is compromised in so many ways he's got conflicts of interest coming out his ar$e. He's not the leader required to take this game forward.
     
  4. Rex

    Rex Well-Known Member

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    Panic is one interpretation - a generous one. 

    I see no real evidence that this extraordinarily harsh call is a new line in the sand.  When asked if it was a precedent, Gallop has consistently avoided directly answering the question, preferring vague non-direct, meaningless non-answers like needing to "treat each case on its merits".  Does Gallop have any plan?  Or is he simply bumbling from crisis to crisis?  Who knows? He won't tell us.
     
  5. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I suppose we will find out when the next player does something
     
  6. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    Rex - are you going to start a campaign with that?  i'll back it.
     
  7. The Wheel

    The Wheel Well-Known Member

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    You get an applaud for that Rex, excellent summation of the inconsistant application of NRL policy by in my view an incompetent NRL mamagement team.

    This should be sent to the media
     
  8. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    It should, but would they run with it?  Even the Manly Daily appear to have little interest in highlighting the inconsistencies in the NRL's treatment of Stewart and the club. 
     
  9. niccipops

    niccipops un echidna spillo mia bevanda Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I'm inviting Darren Lockyer, Karmichael Hunt and Sam Thaiday to a party at my house.
     
  10. Crusher_Cleal

    Crusher_Cleal Well-Known Member

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    Great post Rex. I'd be careful if you did that Niccipops....
     
  11. niccipops

    niccipops un echidna spillo mia bevanda Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Nothing to worry about. If those boys mass murder my whole street and then roll in their own drunken vomit it will all just be harmless fun.
     
  12. Jethro

    Jethro This space is for rent Staff Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    It should, but would they run with it?  Even the Manly Daily appear to have little interest in highlighting the inconsistencies in the NRL's treatment of Stewart and the club. 
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    The Manly Daily is a News Ltd Publication is it not? If so, that would explain their lack of interest.
     
  13. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    It makes you want to start your own newspaper almost....only I have not the time, money, know how, or press accreditation
     
  14. missing_something

    missing_something Active Member

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    All of that actually pretty simple and the startup costs are not as much as you would expect.
     
  15. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    All of that actually pretty simple and the startup costs are not as much as you would expect.
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    hmmmmmmmmm now I need the ability to write coherent and quality articles though too :)
     
  16. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

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    Why?

    It hasnt stopped wilson and wierler.
     
  17. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    To true Dan.
     
  18. nita

    nita Member

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    Fantastic post! Very good points.. now what can we do about it? Petition seems lame..
     
  19. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

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    It should, but would they run with it?  Even the Manly Daily appear to have little interest in highlighting the inconsistencies in the NRL's treatment of Stewart and the club. 
    [/quote]

    The Manly Daily is a News Ltd Publication is it not? If so, that would explain their lack of interest.
    [/quote] Is Cumberland owned by News or Fairfax?
     
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    Matabele Well-Known Member

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