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What this 2016 lot is missing is out and out speed in the backs

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Beaver boy, Nov 2, 2015.

  1. Beaver boy

    Beaver boy Well-Known Member

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    Stewart: still has some pace and a great player but is quicker between the ears than feet these days.
    Tafua: he's no speedster. Would not be in top 10 for wingers.
    Matai: lacks genuine speed
    Lyon: was never noted for his speed, and last year went back a couple of notches
    Hiku: would be one of the slowest wingers/centres in the comp.
    DCE: one of the quickest half backs in the comp .... The exception

    TomT: next to James Roberts would be one of the quickest players in comp .... The exception.

    Understand that all these players posses other skills that act as an adjunct to the speed component, however the issue here is the lack of pure unadulterated speed.

    Therefore the signing of Walker would fill one of the few weak links in our backline.
     
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  2. bones

    bones Bones Knows Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Parcell is very quick and is a chance of playing five eighth.
     
  3. KOMORI

    KOMORI Born and bred an Eagle

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    Can't remember a player since Dale Shearer who was noted for being a real speedster for us.*


    * my memory is woeful though...
     
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  4. Vyssini

    Vyssini Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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  5. sean john

    sean john Haters gonna hate..

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    Could of ran in the commonwealth games with his 100m sprints if remember correctly and this is goin back a long time but I'm pretty sure ken Irvine holds the world record for a white man over 50m??
     
  6. KOMORI

    KOMORI Born and bred an Eagle

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    Yeah... But Scott Donald lol!
     
  7. Budgewoi Eagle

    Budgewoi Eagle In for the long haul. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Russell Garrner was pretty fast. Then again my memory is of Komori standard. :wasntme:
     
  8. Beaver boy

    Beaver boy Well-Known Member

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    Scott Pethybridge, Michael Oldfield.
     
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  9. NickRobbo1998

    NickRobbo1998 Generic_Tragic101

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    I wouldnt have walker just for speed not to sacrifice matai and lyon for the druggo and tafua is no sloth, (@PetaHiku) he holds his own when a break is made
     
  10. bones

    bones Bones Knows Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Snake ...pre knee injuries.
     
  11. Shoe1

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  12. brad

    brad Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't trade any of them for an extra yard of pace . We can and will score full length tries and the silky skills will get us plenty of points inside the Opp half . Our forward pack will have us rolling forward .
     
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  13. Brookvale2015

    Brookvale2015 Active Member

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    Speed isn't that important look at cowboys compared to us

    Stewart>Coote-Stewart ran him down easy in round 12
    Tafua>Feldt-Tafua is actually pretty quick
    Lyon>Oneil
    Matai>Linnet
    Hiku<Winterstein
    Turbo>Morgan
    DCE>JT

    Can't see why it's so important when cowboys one premiership with a slower Backline than ours
     
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  14. HoldenV8

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  15. double hoops

    double hoops Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Walkers speed would be nice. I think we need those after burners out on the wing. As long as he is the right price and isn't precious about were he plays .......get him.

    Walker received a show cause notice from the bunnies today on why he shouldn't be sacked? Makes me think they ain't letting him go. If the wanted to Sack him for the prescription drug do I reckon they wouldn't have just done it.
     
  16. maxta

    maxta Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    The big difference in 2016 with dominant speed in the ruck will naturally create room out wide & these so called slow players will be up with the top tryscorers....the main ingredients missing was powerful, intimidating forwards & dynamic explosive dummy half options, now covered....suddenly these outside backs will look yards faster
     
  17. Rex

    Rex Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it was yards back then. Irvine ran 100 yards (91 m) in 9.3 seconds at Dubbo in 1963, setting a world professional sprint record. So he was no slouch and is the pick of the speedsters. I also seem to remember him excelling at beach sprinting.
     
  18. Beaver boy

    Beaver boy Well-Known Member

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    snake and Coote would be even these days .

    Feldtwould be quicker than Tafua

    O'neill would be second or third behind James Roberts in the NRL and would beat Lyon and Matai if he had either or on his back.

    Winterstein way quicker than Hiku

    Morgan quicker than any of our 5/8 options
     
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  20. HoldenV8

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    Manly have had plenty of speedsters over our 70 years

    Johnny Bliss
    Nick Yackich
    Ken Irvine
    Russel Gartner
    Dale Shearer
    Stuart Davis
    Andrew Frew
    Scott Donald
    Brett Stewart
    Tom Trbojevic

    Consider this.......

    In about 1947 Bliss was timed at 11.1 for the 100 metres and 9.9 for the 100 yards. While running these times he was dressed in full football gear (including the boots they wore back in his day) while carrying a football. American sprinter Harrison Dillard won the 100 metres gold medal in the 1948 London Olympics with a time of 10.3. If Bliss wanted to he could have been an Olympic sprinter.

    We all know about Ken Irvine's legendary speed. If Norths hadn't signed him he might have ended up playing baseball or being a sprinter.

    At training in about 2004 or 2005, Snake was allegedly timed at 10.2 for the 100 (hand held). The current (2015) Australian 100 metre champion Tim Leathart has a best time of 10.24 which he set in 2013.
     
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