Having a good pack and doing something with the ball are two different things.  They will miss Wing's steadying influence and insightful and intelligent play.  They've had good forwards in the past and done nothing.  I really can't see them making the eight with the number 7 in their lineup. I predict another crap year for them. Sort of like the Panthers. Huge strong forwards, Start strong but but deliver sfa at the money end of the season.