Soft underbelly

[Under the Sticks]

How many losses should it take

For the Panthers or Storm it would be zero

 

[Under the Sticks]

The warning signs were there for a while, this team consistently undoes its work by not managing games and having any game awareness, there were plenty of examples of this all season.

Our senior players MUST improve especially as their errors killed us last night.

Its a wet night and we gave up 12 unnecessary points by ignoring the rules of wet weather play.

20-0 up and an advantage of an extra player and we didn't play the percentage game.

Costly defeat and worrying trend coughing up bug leads in games, they were punished again, that's 5 points dropped from winning positions!

Oh if only we had Bug Davis on the wings he would have held that bomb.......

Sorry @sheridanstand78 cheap shot on spelling I know but worth a joke amongst old blokes

 

[master blaster]

The warning signs were there for a while, this team consistently undoes its work by not managing games and having any game awareness, there were plenty of examples of this all season.

Our senior players MUST improve especially as their errors killed us last night.

Its a wet night and we gave up 12 unnecessary points by ignoring the rules of wet weather play.

20-0 up and an advantage of an extra player and we didn't play the percentage game.

Costly defeat and worrying trend coughing up bug leads in games, they were punished again, that's 5 points dropped from winning positions!

The players obviously dont hurt when they lose and lose like this, they just accept it and think, oh well there is always next week. Thats not good enough I am afraid

 

[Under the Sticks]

The warning signs were there for a while, this team consistently undoes its work by not managing games and having any game awareness, there were plenty of examples of this all season.

Our senior players MUST improve especially as their errors killed us last night.

Its a wet night and we gave up 12 unnecessary points by ignoring the rules of wet weather play.

20-0 up and an advantage of an extra player and we didn't play the percentage game.

Costly defeat and worrying trend coughing up bug leads in games, they were punished again, that's 5 points dropped from winning positions!

I still claim we are one of the "dumbest footy teams" in the NRL. Maybe there is the disconnect between Presentation Man and the playing group. A smarter coach switched on to his playing group's footy intellect would have told them to execute a wet weather plan or consolidate after establishing the lead.

Brooks demonstrated this with his harbour bridge pass seconds from half time against the Warriors which cost us 1 point. Just an example which is sadly 1 of 100s and quite a few with DCE's name on them too.

Can we slow up on the hero plays guys until we are 40 in front?

 

[master blaster]

I still claim we are one of the "dumbest footy teams" in the NRL. Maybe there is the disconnect between Presentation Man and the playing group. A smarter coach switched on to his playing group would have told themn to execute a wet weather plan or conolidate after establishing the league.

Brooks demonstarted this with his harbour bridge pass seconds from half time against the Warriors which cost us 1 point. Just an example which is sadly 1 of 100s and quite a few with DCE's name on them too.

My mate went to the game and he rang me on the way home and said exactly that, we are the dunbest footy team out there, I agree

 

[Under the Sticks]

My mate went to the game and he rang me on the way home and said exactly that, we are the dunbest footy team out there, I agree

And Brooks was supposed to have the smartest footy brain since Joey Johns? Didn't show that last night for a guy who is 30 and has plenty of seasons under the belt.

 

[mave]

Can we slow up on the hero plays guys until we are 40 in front?

Ummmm, that's not how BenjiBall works mate.

 

[XV-1]

I would agree wholeheartedly. While a loss is never good, on the plus side, it may put a rocket up the playing group with two games to go before the bye.

You really think Seibold will put a rocket up the playing group?

No, he will go into his new age PC BS and try to wordsmith his way into confused footy players.

Or just trade out the ones that need coaching

 

[Under the Sticks]

You really think Seibold will put a rocket up the playing group?

No, he will go into his new age PC BS and try to wordsmith his way into confused footy players.

Or just trade out the ones that need coaching

there's a slide deck for that!

 

[Under the Sticks]

You really think Seibold will put a rocket up the playing group?

No, he will go into his new age PC BS and try to wordsmith his way into confused footy players.

Or just trade out the ones that need coaching

which gets me thinking are Rah Rah players smarter than Rugba Leeg players? That's amybe why he loved Two Faced Eddie so much.

 

[Under the Sticks]

Ummmm, that's not how BenjiBall works mate.

sorry lazy uneducated reference for all out attack and little defence.

What does Benjiball mean?

 

[mickqld]

I would agree wholeheartedly. While a loss is never good, on the plus side, it may put a rocket up the playing group with two games to go before the bye.

And the Dragons and Parra efforts weren't enough to put rockets up them ?? No sorry I can't cop this sh*t. 10 years of watching these same putrid efforts time and again. Clearly this playing group doesn't have what it takes. It'll be another decade of failure until this club gets its pathways sh*t together if ever.

 

[XV-1]

And the Dragons and Parra efforts weren't enough to put rockets up them ?? No sorry I can't cop this sh*t. 10 years of watching these same putrid efforts time and again. Clearly this playing group doesn't have what it takes. It'll be another decade of failure until this club gets its pathways sh*t together if ever.

If the so called coach won't put a rocket up the playing group,who will?

 

[Bringbackcliffy]

To be fair they were no better under Hasler. When the mood strikes they look great but too often they default to being entertaining. Sides know you are always a chance against manly. We get run down and beaten on the bell more than anyone. We are only a slight momentum change away from falling apart. They are talented but extremely soft. No interest in the grind whatsoever. No change from the last 6 or so years. Put them down for 10th.

 

[Under the Sticks]

To be fair they were no better under Hasler. When the mood strikes they look great but too often they default to being entertaining. Sides know you are always a chance against manly. We get run down and beaten on the bell more than anyone. We are only a slight momentum change away from falling apart. They are talented but extremely soft. No interest in the grind whatsoever. No change from the last 6 or so years. Put them down for 10th.

That aligns with the theory that the team is lacking footy smarts and not the coaches. The core of the team is still the same from Des coached teams.

As I said in another post I’m not expecting a team full of ironstines but a combination of a few smart ones and some followers who turn up in the right place at the right times would do me.

 

[davohan123]

And the Dragons and Parra efforts weren't enough to put rockets up them ?? No sorry I can't cop this sh*t. 10 years of watching these same putrid efforts time and again. Clearly this playing group doesn't have what it takes. It'll be another decade of failure until this club gets its pathways sh*t together if ever.

And tigers and dogs are not now getting the results but in say 5 years time they have been very smart in setting up good pathways programs

Our club CEO and owners to me are only looking at the short term wanting the GF win with this playing group, they won't get it and then we will fall back badly

 

[davohan123]

To be fair they were no better under Hasler. When the mood strikes they look great but too often they default to being entertaining. Sides know you are always a chance against manly. We get run down and beaten on the bell more than anyone. We are only a slight momentum change away from falling apart. They are talented but extremely soft. No interest in the grind whatsoever. No change from the last 6 or so years. Put them down for 10th.

And like most teams one or 2 major injuries away from being a bottom 4 team

If we do make finals footy we won't be worth watching

 

[Frogz]

Oh if only we had Bug Davis on the wings he would have held that bomb.......

Sorry @sheridanstand78 cheap shot on spelling I know but worth a joke amongst old blokes

Wasnt he Sticks Davis and Mossop called him the 7 iron with ears!!!!!

 

[bob dylan]

Flogged by Dragons, beaten by patched up Raiders and scrape home against under strength Titans.

I predicted a non top 8 finish. Be lucky to avoid bottom I'd say.

I think Lodge and Brown fired up the opposition and has a more positive effect on Raiders than they did for us.

We have been soft since Watmough and Gifty left. Haumole is a real tough guy. Jake and Croker are real warriors. Other forwards were generally good except Waddell.

I thought we were let down mainly by DCE and Tom last night, they needed to ensure we went on with the job. Both could be focused on Origin now, which does nothing for Manly.

Very disappointed.

 

[Frogz]

Toms form cant possibly have him in the Origin mix. Defence is not on song and his handling is terrible. Cant be anywhere near 100% both fit or in the head. His defence on our try line is atrocious.