Peter C
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Fairly certain Greeberg was gone by then, I think it was Raelene Castle that recruited Fifita.
Salary Cap Witch Hunt. **Appeal unsuccessful**
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pjayz
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Did I say we have - did I? I didn't realise that.
It's the fact it is hanging over our heads, I can't see any player signing with us until this mess is sorted out.
Happy to see Joel on our books; however, I don't see it.
Captain Moondog
Absolute Superstar
Pretty sure Greenslime is the most evil being in the universe...
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
You mean Ray Leancastle of the ARU.
Captain Moondog
Absolute Superstar
I'd like to see him probed by alien beings from a ringed planet that we won't mention...
So if they were unpaid how did we breach the cap?
HappilyManly
Journey Man
As far as the players go he’s probably right, as long as they get paid they probably don’t give a **** about the off field stuff!
Cliffymagic
Bencher
Just read an article on smh .sorry cant link it. Saying st.george are the biggest losers from our cap cheating. Claiming we cost them a top 8 spot and around 500k in revenue because we shouldnt have been playing for points...... lmfao. Biggest load of crap ive read in a while.
Correct - Dean Ritchie's article in the DT today names Foran and Matt Parcell amongst a few players who have been involved over the years.
Good on her, I say, for putting her money where her heart is, so to speak
Captain Moondog
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December 13 2017 - 7:11AM
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St George Illawarra Dragons biggest losers in Manly Sea Eagles cap bust
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St George Illawarra are the biggest losers in the Manly salary cap scandal, missing out on a finals spot and the estimated $500,000 windfall that comes with it after the Sea Eagles were pinged after the season was completed.
The Dragons finished the regular season in ninth spot, but could have snuck into the top eight had sixth-placed Manly been sanctioned earlier. Fairfax Media revealed five months ago that the Silvertails were under scrutiny after Strike Force Nuralda, the taskforce assembled by NSW police to investigate match-fixing, found evidence of player payments in contravention of NRL rules.
Dragons supporters could have been cheering their team in the finals if Manly had been sanctioned earlier. Photo: Quentin Jones
Rugby League Central issued breach notices to the Sea Eagles and two current club officials on Monday after identifying potential breaches of the salary cap over the past five years. Potential punishments include large fines and the deregistration of the administrators involved.
The sanctions are cold comfort to the Dragons, who were pipped for a finals spot by a team over the limit.
"It's inappropriate for us to be making comment about a breach notice and an investigation that doesn't involve us and where we are unaware of the facts," St George Illawarra CEO Peter Doust said.
Had the NRL identified the issue during the season, it's likely Manly wouldn't have played for points until such time as the club was cap-compliant. The situation – faced by Parramatta after their salary cap rorting came to light last year – could have provided the Dragons with an opportunity to contest the finals.
Such an outcome would have generated about $500,000 in additional revenue when finals prizemoney, merchandise sales, corporate interest, membership take-up, sponsor exposure and other incentives are factored in.
A play-off appearance would also have taken the pressure off Paul McGregor. The coach was re-signed after a strong start to the year that saw the Red V lead the competition after seven rounds. Yet despite having two more years to run on his contract extension, the man dubbed "Mary" will be under huge pressure after missing the finals in successive seasons.
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"Obviously to play finals footy would be great for the club for all those reasons, particularly for the supporters," said Dragons legend Mark Coyne, a member of the club's football performance committee.
"But it is what it is and it's not the first time that's happened. I don't think the Dragons should be relying on someone cheating the salary cap to get in there.
"While it would have been good to make the finals, as a player or supporter I wouldn't be saying, 'we've been ripped off because Manly spent a few hundred thousand over the salary cap'.
"We needed to perform better than what we did to make sure we were in the finals for how we played, not because of what's happened with someone else."
Historically, the NRL hasn't compensated teams affected by clubs breaching the salary cap. When Melbourne was stripped of their 2009 premiership for systemically cheating the system, losing grand-finalists Parramatta weren't crowned premiers. When the Eels were caught over the limit last year, they were docked 12 competition points and fined $750,000, as well as being stripped of their Nines trophy.
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St George Illawarra Dragons biggest losers in Manly Sea Eagles cap bust
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St George Illawarra are the biggest losers in the Manly salary cap scandal, missing out on a finals spot and the estimated $500,000 windfall that comes with it after the Sea Eagles were pinged after the season was completed.
The Dragons finished the regular season in ninth spot, but could have snuck into the top eight had sixth-placed Manly been sanctioned earlier. Fairfax Media revealed five months ago that the Silvertails were under scrutiny after Strike Force Nuralda, the taskforce assembled by NSW police to investigate match-fixing, found evidence of player payments in contravention of NRL rules.
Dragons supporters could have been cheering their team in the finals if Manly had been sanctioned earlier. Photo: Quentin Jones
Rugby League Central issued breach notices to the Sea Eagles and two current club officials on Monday after identifying potential breaches of the salary cap over the past five years. Potential punishments include large fines and the deregistration of the administrators involved.
The sanctions are cold comfort to the Dragons, who were pipped for a finals spot by a team over the limit.
"It's inappropriate for us to be making comment about a breach notice and an investigation that doesn't involve us and where we are unaware of the facts," St George Illawarra CEO Peter Doust said.
Had the NRL identified the issue during the season, it's likely Manly wouldn't have played for points until such time as the club was cap-compliant. The situation – faced by Parramatta after their salary cap rorting came to light last year – could have provided the Dragons with an opportunity to contest the finals.
Such an outcome would have generated about $500,000 in additional revenue when finals prizemoney, merchandise sales, corporate interest, membership take-up, sponsor exposure and other incentives are factored in.
A play-off appearance would also have taken the pressure off Paul McGregor. The coach was re-signed after a strong start to the year that saw the Red V lead the competition after seven rounds. Yet despite having two more years to run on his contract extension, the man dubbed "Mary" will be under huge pressure after missing the finals in successive seasons.
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"Obviously to play finals footy would be great for the club for all those reasons, particularly for the supporters," said Dragons legend Mark Coyne, a member of the club's football performance committee.
"But it is what it is and it's not the first time that's happened. I don't think the Dragons should be relying on someone cheating the salary cap to get in there.
"While it would have been good to make the finals, as a player or supporter I wouldn't be saying, 'we've been ripped off because Manly spent a few hundred thousand over the salary cap'.
"We needed to perform better than what we did to make sure we were in the finals for how we played, not because of what's happened with someone else."
Historically, the NRL hasn't compensated teams affected by clubs breaching the salary cap. When Melbourne was stripped of their 2009 premiership for systemically cheating the system, losing grand-finalists Parramatta weren't crowned premiers. When the Eels were caught over the limit last year, they were docked 12 competition points and fined $750,000, as well as being stripped of their Nines trophy.
Captain Moondog
Absolute Superstar
So, the obvious conclusion I draw from this article is Adrian Proszenko is a world class wanker.
OR .... every cloud has a silver lining .... fuk StMerge if they can't see the funny side.
HappilyManly
Journey Man
Manly weren't awarded the 2007 Premiership either - journo missed this Manly fact 
Peter C
Bencher
Yeah, that Ray
The 81 year old granny might be a bit of a sea eagle nut?
Anybody?
If so, not sure that she'd be thrilled about having a primary descriptor of 'granny'.
Wonder if the stories about Frank Lowy selling Westfield describes him first and foremost as grandad?
Anybody?
If so, not sure that she'd be thrilled about having a primary descriptor of 'granny'.
Wonder if the stories about Frank Lowy selling Westfield describes him first and foremost as grandad?
Loobs
Living in the demountable.
http://www.sportingnews.com/au/leag...old-by-nrl-reports/1mc9iqm7ozgv11di7hwk350ehl
Odds the NRL green-lit Haynes move to Parra because the new buyer wanted no part of him at the club and the NRL wanted to close the sale..?
The lunacy continues...
Odds the NRL green-lit Haynes move to Parra because the new buyer wanted no part of him at the club and the NRL wanted to close the sale..?
The lunacy continues...
So weird because, how many times have we (tell us we're dreamin'!) discussed the idea of Silvertails making a TPA with a player?
It never occurred to any of us that that would be a problem. And why should it be?
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