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matt adamson on fs news

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Dan, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    This clown reckons double movement rule is dumb and shouldnt be in the game. Compared thw game to nfl saying it just needs to end up over the line.

    Also says no one liked the fight even rolled out the mums ans kids line. What a clown
     
  2. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Yeah saw that and all I thought was Mat who?
     
  3. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

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    and you give him more time with this post
     
  4. Pittwater Legend

    Pittwater Legend Well-Known Member

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    Come on Matty. There is no need to embarrass yourself with a dumb whinge.
     
  5. Killer03

    Killer03 Well-Known Member

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    What game does that idiot think we are playing? No double movement? So when does the tackle finish? Or you just keep going? WTF?

    And the rubbish he went on about Gallens punch. Too long NSW have stood back and not realized origin is ruled differently. Tonight they fought back....well effing done!!
     
  6. dowdz

    dowdz Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    http://www.nrl.com/origin-referees-could-show-leniency-hagan/tabid/10874/newsid/72705/default.aspx

    Maybe he should have a read as they got what the asked for lol.

    Idiot no double movement. Should be sacked for stupidity
     
  7. Mals

    Mals Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Indeed he did, cringe worthy stuff. Even more embarrassing that he's a former NSW Blue.
     
  8. dceagle

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    Average player , average comments . He's trying to make headlines which keeps his name current . Probably after a gig on Talkin sport or MMM
     
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  9. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    I agree with him on double movement. Most stupid rule in the NRL. If you can put the ball over the line before your momentum is stopped then it should be a try. It's a completely ridiculous rule to say you can't promote the football once you arm carrying it hits the ground. Everywhere else on the field you can reach forward, crawl off the mark, wrestle in the tackle to promote your position, but get tackled 10cm from the tryline and you must freeze every muscle in your body in case they slow mo replay your effort 20 times to determine if you flinched an eyebrow and made a double movement. Crap rule, needs to go the way of the touch the corner post rule.

    As for the fight, he's off the mark there. Give yourself an uppercut Matt.
     
  10. MissKate

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    I disagree, changing that rule would eliminate some of the great try saving tackles you see, guys busting their guts to ensure the ball carrier does not get over the line and get the ball down. Change that rule and once a player gets within a metre or two of the line the defenders may as well just stand back and let the ball carrier score.
     
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  11. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Momentum is accounted for, the case in point last night Cam Smith actually did not end up over the line and momentum would not have taken him there, instead he lifted the ball to move it.

    You remove that rule and you have to change the entire ruling of held.

    I agree with MissKate it would also eliminate some of the great try saving tackles and some of the great defense of guys like Snake
     
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    They just need to make the field a metre longer at each to eradicate double movements.
     
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  13. MadMarcus

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    Or should that be a metre shorter?
     
  14. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Momentum is momentum, that doesn't affect whether you should be able to promote the ball during the course of the tackle. Of course I'm not advocating being able to reach out once your momentum has stopped. If the tackle is being made and your arm with the ball hits the ground why shouldn't you be able to lift it up and stretch out in the one movement ? How many times do you see players do it when they are trying to run the ball out of their own in goal ? you can get tackled in your own in goal and reach out and put the ball into the field of play over the tryline, that's the exact same thing, but I don't see penalties for that.

    As for it being the death of try saving tackles ??!! What's the difference between a great try saving tackle now and one where the player ends up on the try line scoring a try....not much...1cm ?? All it means is that the "great try saving tackle" zone moves up field by a foot or two. Big deal.

    I just think it is a rule that is too open to interpretation and requires 50 million replays and is a waste of time. Look at how rugby treat it. You can promote the ball to score a try if it is in the one movement in the tackle, there is no double movement in rugby.
     
  15. Duff

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    There was absolutely zero interpretation in that one. It was a text book double movement.

    The rule is one of the easier ones to judge anyway.
    If the ball is at shoulder height when it (or it's arm) first touches the ground and then your arm moves forward, all that you need to look at is whether the shoulder is over the line. If it is, call it momentum, award the try. If it isn't, the ball would not have crossed the line with momentum therefore you have promoted illegally and will be penalised.

    Why is that so hard?
     
  16. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    It's not hard and has never been a point of contention, until Adamson tries to turn a story
     
  17. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    So there has never been any contentious double movement tries allowed or disallowed ??
     
  18. Dan

    Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    In living memory I vaguely remember one or two. Lets look at say forward pass tries instead, have there been any of those, should we therefore remove the forward pass rule?
     
  19. manlyfan76

    manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    Well you can now attack the head of an opponent.
     
  20. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    You can only remember one or two ?? I can remember more than that.

    Video ref can't rule on forward passes anyway. So in effect they did change the rule, because it was too contentious.

    Anyway you have done a good job of comparing an apple with an orange. Forward pass rule is critical to the philosophy of the game, double movement rule seems at odds with everything else that happens on every other inch of the field bar the 4 inches approaching the tryline.

    Have you seen the way they apply the "rule" in rugby ?? I personally think it works OK. Anyway no big deal, I just think it is a stupid rule.
     

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