Manly's culture is stuck. Stuck in Des's old school world of secrecy and under the damn radar. Stuff it. Why can't the club move into reality and A) Publish injury status updates on a regular basis and B)Level with the fans on player contract's - Foran's being a classic case in point. It's time to move forward out of the control freaky Des Hasler led past.
Manly needs a culture change
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What right do we have to know contract stuff ? None imo
Don't blame Hasler, it's Gallop's fault.
Berkeley_Eagle
Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan
Baz does everyone know your financial situation etc
Players should be allowed some privacy
Players should be allowed some privacy
MadMarcus
Toovey for NRL CEO
bazeagle said:
I don't hear the Bulldogs telling the world how their negotations with Foran are going so why should we? It sounds to me like it would put us at a severe disadvantage if the club had to report to fans throughout the process. There is a reason why these types of negotiations are confidential.
That's right WAMF. Thanks for the support. Guys, this thread is about better communication from the club on injury status and contractual negotiations plus overall more player info and club info too. We seem to be stuck in the past here big time and the current process is outdated and it doesn't work from this fans perspective. Please stick to the topic posters and try to avoid seeking to find a hole in my post because you don't like my Gallop stance.
Masked Eagle
Bencher
I agree with injuries. The only people they are keeping in the dark is the fans. If a journo wants to know who is playing in a side this weekend, they need to ask the opposition coach because they know whose in or out. Clubs aren't keeping anything secret from their opposition so just let the fans know.
I actually think we should borrow a system from the AFL when it comes to naming their teams. They do it a bit later in the week though, but when they name their starting side, they can name 3 emergencies and if anyone was to pull out before the game then only one of the emergencies can come in, (actually they can bring in someone else but it will result in a fine). They also have to regularly circulate injury reports from the club.
As far as wages go, there are no secrets in the US, but thats because most of their sports are about the money. We like our athletes to be a little bit more humble here and I'm not sure they'd appreciate it. Although it would take out the conjecture with the salary cap and fans guessing as to how much a player is worth/getting paid.
I actually think we should borrow a system from the AFL when it comes to naming their teams. They do it a bit later in the week though, but when they name their starting side, they can name 3 emergencies and if anyone was to pull out before the game then only one of the emergencies can come in, (actually they can bring in someone else but it will result in a fine). They also have to regularly circulate injury reports from the club.
As far as wages go, there are no secrets in the US, but thats because most of their sports are about the money. We like our athletes to be a little bit more humble here and I'm not sure they'd appreciate it. Although it would take out the conjecture with the salary cap and fans guessing as to how much a player is worth/getting paid.
Jatz Crackers
First Grader
bazeagle said:
Its not the Manly clubs (or any one clubs) responsibility. Both A & B need to be game wide initiatives. As someone rightly pointed out above, speak to gallop & the IC.
What more do you expect from the Manly club in regards to contract information on top of what they are telling us, that they are trying hard to put the best offer in front of them
So what are you expecting ?
When the deal is offered, what the terms are, the players response etc ?
No club in their right mind would be sending that info out mid negotiation mate
I really can't see what more they can tell us on the matter
When the deal is offered, what the terms are, the players response etc ?
No club in their right mind would be sending that info out mid negotiation mate
I really can't see what more they can tell us on the matter
Give us an example of what you would like them to say about it.
Ha interesting. You guys are itching to find a hole in my argument. Whatever.
My suggestion: A decision is expected on the Foran contractual situation straight after the Dgs match because the club and Keiran are committed to not destabilising the build up to this important match.
btw the reason I picked this one as a suggestion is that I believe he is gone and will announce it after the game.
Happy now KE and SER8?
My suggestion: A decision is expected on the Foran contractual situation straight after the Dgs match because the club and Keiran are committed to not destabilising the build up to this important match.
btw the reason I picked this one as a suggestion is that I believe he is gone and will announce it after the game.
Happy now KE and SER8?
Ecstatic.
Not looking for any hole at all, just an example of what you are wanting
On your example, is a nice theory but could also be seen by the player in question as a hindrance to negotiations and added pressure that could see a potential deal fall through
On your example, is a nice theory but could also be seen by the player in question as a hindrance to negotiations and added pressure that could see a potential deal fall through
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