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Manly face fan backlash over Toovey

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by tookey, Apr 14, 2015.

  1. tookey

    tookey Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

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    MANLY will face an ugly battle with loyal, long-term fans if they decide to sack coach Geoff Toovey.
    Toovey is under increasing pressure to retain his job, his under-performing side having won just one of six games this year.

    It is quite bizarre seeing the annually successful Manly sitting last on the NRL competition table.

    Manly fans though don't appear to be driven purely by results.

    They just want Toovey retained and respected.

    Fans have contacted me through the week saying they would walk away from the club if Toovey is sacked. And they mean it.

    One wrote: "Count me out if 'Tooves' goes."

    Another posted: "I won't retain my season membership if Toovey is sacked."

    And another said: "He goes, I go."

    NRL clubs know they cannot be ruled or bullied by emotional fans.

    Manly management also know though that they don't want to alienate or torment fans that have helped drive the club to ten successive finals appearances.

    There is no doubt Toovey has fans in his corner.

    They love him, they love his toughness, his maroon and white heart, they love him as a club legend.

    Punting such a widely popular figure would be dangerous.

    Manly think though the fans may swing around against Toovey if the club misses the finals, which is looking increasing likely even at this early stage of the season.

    Toovey has handled the innuendo with dignity. Even the opinions of fans from rival clubs, who generally hated the highly competitive Toovey, have turned around.

    Manly fans were even talking about a march in support of Toovey.

    Toovey played 286 games for Manly and Northern Eagles. He literally spilled blood in helping Manly to three grand finals and one title. He then guided Manly to the 2013 grand final as head coach.

    No doubt Toovey is a Manly great. Sea Eagles officials will decide on their coach's future through results, tactics, recruitment and retention.

    The club won't retain Toovey if they think he should go. It's a result-driven business.

    But if they do punt Toovey, the club can expect one hell of a fight with passionate and angry Manly fans.

    It could get ugly.

  2. tookey

    tookey Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +4,243 / 131
    The Penns will probably sack Toovey but it will be written he resigned for the good of the club.

    If he does go then it will of course be a sacking and players like Stewart and Foran will be behind his demise all because of Toovey's failure to ensure gitfy was signed.
  3. MadMarcus

    MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +5,803 / 53
    I think Scott Penn foreshadowed this in his recent comments. He said something like "it won't be a sacking".... in other words, publicly it will be a resignation but behind the scenes it will be an old fashioned shafting. The fans will see right through it, whatever they call it and Penn has done himself a disservice by making those comments, which make it all so obvious.
  4. BOZO

    BOZO Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +3,842 / 190
    The more games we lose the easier it will be for the management to justify their actions .
    We need to start winning !!!
  5. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +11,498 / 254
    '.. For the good of my family...', 2V :angel:

    Wish the Players fought for their Coach half as much as we Fans do :cool:

    'Be Manly, don't be a Dog', B Stewart 2012
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  6. Desert Boot Kid

    Desert Boot Kid Active Member

    +46 / 5
    The day a club starts listening to a football forum for advice is the day a club dies.

    The club has got itself into this position by giving players to much power (bending to their will) and now they are going to take advice from supporters.

    I for one don't give a **** who is coaching the team as long as they are successful.

    Penn needs to make a decision and stick with it if it's Toovey fine if it's not it's his money and he can choose who he wants.
  7. The Who

    The Who Well-Known Member

    Mona Vale
    +4,836 / 103
    What's taken the media so long to pick up on the outrage of we fans?
    They must start reading Silvertails more regularly. This should have been a headline story four weeks ago. Again, an example of lazy journalists who these days with a 24-hour news cycle must slavishly report every piece of gossip and innuendo on a fan forum immediately without checking any facts.
  8. Budgewoi Eagle

    Budgewoi Eagle In for the long haul. Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +4,015 / 52
    Journalists? Ha! Just a story made through reading this Forum.
    "Fans have contacted me..."
    "Another posted ...."
    May I suggesr no one contacted you Mister!
  9. Ryan

    Ryan Well-Known Member

    +6,084 / 285
    If it means the players get their heads screwed on properly, and they all start pulling in the same direction, I'd be happy if Taylor Swift were coach. Seriously, come on now.

    At the end of the day, it's the players that put in these pathetic performances. Yes, Toovey keeps selecting them, but they are letting him down, because he has lost them as a group.

    It's the same reason The Sharks got rid of Stuart.
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2015
  10. mave

    mave Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +720 / 28
    Once a coach loses the playing group......it's all over
  11. Duff

    Duff Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +547 / 9
    The club should not be listening to overly emotional fans as they are not the ones with the inside knowledge. It should also not be delivering every desire of the players, as they have a job to do and selecting the coaching staff is not a part of it.

    What they need to do is act in the best interests of the club.
    What they owe the fans is to make them comfortable that this is what they are doing. That they are not acting for personal, vindictive reasons. If we trust the board, we can respect their decisions, even if we don't like them. They have not built this trust. They have not delivered results in other areas and they have not provided an alternative candidate for coach that would be satisfactory.
    What they owe the players is a work environment which maximizes the potential the club can offer. They are yet to show that they can do this.

    That is all we want, journalist. That is all.
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  12. dowdz

    dowdz Well-Known Member Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +853 / 5
    Great post @Duff. Fans will and always do get emotional, especially with Manly as all we know is success..
  13. The Who

    The Who Well-Known Member

    Mona Vale
    +4,836 / 103
    Didn't Tooves find the playing group shivering on a mountain top in the Snowy Mountains pre-season?
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  14. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

    +1,242 / 7
    Its a dean ritchie article. Means little or nothing to me.
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  15. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

    +12,701 / 257
    As thought he owners / board would listen to us!

    At the end of the day we are purely a revenue stream, and compared to the NRL funds and sponsorship a minor one at that !!
  16. tookey

    tookey Well-Known Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +4,243 / 131
    Zorba's mouthpiece. Or perhaps harmonica?
  17. HappilyManly

    HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2016 Tipping Competitor

    +11,498 / 254
    The omen we didn't heed - up the hill, without a paddle.
    We are cursed !:rofl::devil:>:):giggle:
  18. mjb136

    mjb136 MWSE fanatic Premium Member

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    Rugby League Immortal Bob Fulton appointed Strategic Football Consultant
    to the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles

    The Manly Warringah Sea Eagles have appointed Rugby League Immortal Bob Fulton to the position of Strategic Football Consultant, which will support the Club’s football operations.

    “We are extremely proud to have an Immortal, past Captain and Coach of the mighty Sea Eagles come back into the inner sanctum,” said Sea Eagles Chairman Scott Penn.

    “Bob has won Premierships as both a Player and a Coach with the Sea Eagles, is currently an adviser to Laurie Daley and the NSW Blues, and is a current Australian selector.”

    “Bob’s initial focus will be to support Head Coach Geoff Toovey and CEO Joe Kelly with our talent identification and recruitment program and to also assist in the development of a long term football plan that is designed to ensure sustained on-field success for our Club.”

    Fulton expressed his excitement at the prospect of returning to his former team.

    “I am pleased to be able to contribute to the Sea Eagles and provide support and advice to the Football Department. Whilst always remaining a passionate Sea Eagles Life Member, it is exciting to have an opportunity to help craft the future of the Club,” said Fulton.

    CEO Joe Kelly is thrilled to secure someone of Bob’s stature to this key position which complements the additional resources that have been invested into the football department since November 2014.

    “The success that Bob has achieved as a former player and coach of the Sea Eagles speaks for itself. Our Club is incredibly fortunate that someone of Bob’s credentials and standing within Rugby League has accepted the opportunity to assist with our football department,” said CEO Joe Kelly.

    Coach Geoff Toovey welcomed the appointment of his former coach and mentor.

    “Bob has an incredible knowledge of the game and I’m heartened to have someone of his reputation supporting the Club,” said Toovey.

    “Bob and I have shared considerable success in the past and I look forward to reviving that formidable partnership.”

    PONTIAN SEA EAGLE Well-Known Member

    +947 / 80
    Who's this manly mike ringing talking sport discussing tooveys on his last legs.Mate why don't you register on this forum & have your say with real manly supporters.Not dickhead bulldog panelists.
  20. Jatz Crackers

    Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

    +1,242 / 7
    He sure aint no trumpet.

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