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A lot better than some of the other crap being tossed around!
It was Des all along coaching thread
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I will be mightily pissed off if Des does something underhanded to ruin our grand final celebrations next year.
Or on second thoughts - no I won't!
Or on second thoughts - no I won't!
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
I understand Frank Stanton was also being discussed.
Lyall confirms there are ongoing discussions with Des.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ma...e-future-with-des-hasler-20181012-p509en.html
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ma...e-future-with-des-hasler-20181012-p509en.html
Gez all this who coming talk i feel light headed
Because the smart money comes just before they jump.
How much do you love that Tooves is wearing a Penn State T-shirt?Struggling Manly cannot afford to ignore Geoff Toovey’s interest in taking over from Trent Barrett
Paul Kent, The Daily Telegraph
8 minutes ago
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GEOFF Toovey’s timing was always perfect, like every hero.
He came to Manly at a time when the Sea Eagles were turning over a generation and, for more than a decade, he would shape the Sea Eagles' identity.
They were tough and relentless and always at you. It delivered three grand finals, a premiership and a trip to the finals almost every season.
Manly bosses should ignore Toovey’s offer to rescue the club at their peril.
They would not be employing a football coach.
Manly owner Scott Penn needs to consider Toovey not for his potential to resurrect the football program, but to save the club itself.
Geoff Toovey doesn’t want to spending his time at Manly Beach. (Adam Yip)
Toovey was restless this past winter.
Through the week he induced himself into small coma, pouring over numbers in his job as a chartered accountant. For a man who remains one of the game’s greatest competitors this was akin to putting a lion in a circus cage.
Given his private hell, though, it’s tough to say his weekends were worse.
Without the emotional high of wins and losses in his life, the nervous flutters in the dressing room before games, the energy in the coach’s box during games, the pay-off after it was all over, Toovey found his weekends flat and excruciating.
Des Hasler too Manly to unexpected heights.
Towards the end of the season he was talking to Des Hasler, another former coach counting minutes on the clock, and he fired up about their lack of weekend activity, the boredom they shared, and he convinced Hasler they should take Hasler’s boat and go out on the water for some fishing and fun.
Hasler had given the boat so little use he had to go to his storage shed to get the outboard motor.
He pulled it out for what would be its second run in nine years.
They went out on the water to do a little fishing and quickly found neither had the patience for it. Sea Eagles yes, sea legs no.
The motor went back into storage.
Toovey was able to carry on Hasler’s work. (Brett Costello)
Hasler has come in for a lot of criticism since he became an unemployed coach but nobody can deny what he was able to at Manly on, what we are now discovering, was limited chance.
This largesse of private ownership was a mirage. The Sea Eagles’ first priority seems, according to owners, to do it cheaper than everybody else.
To where it has made the club vulnerable.
Toovey came in after Hasler and also had success.
In his four seasons at Manly Toovey made a preliminary final, a grand final and a semi-final before finishing a win out of the top eight in his final season.
Most clubs would kill for a coach to sack after stint like that.
What failed to get acknowledged was the duress the success came under.
Working with no support was Barrett’s breaking point. (AAP Image/Dan Himbrechts)
Toovey operated on the same limited budget outgoing coach Trent Barrett found unacceptable. That Michael Maguire walked away from after being offered the job.
The little known end for Toovey began Parramatta, using illegal money because they were cheating the cap, lured Anthony Watmough away mid-season and the house of cards came down.
Toovey got sacked and the club went into a rebuild that has come in for misplaced criticism. The Sea Eagles have three Kangaroos and a Kiwi playing in Saturday’s Test. Only the Roosters have more Kangaroos.
Manly still have a beating heart of talent. (AAP Image/Darren England)
The NRL, as the licence owner, need to give Scott Penn a kick in the pants and tell him to get his club in shape or the licence is going to someone else.
Penn is on record saying the club has cost him between $1 million and $1.5 million a year since he bought it in 2009.
He is still in front, though.
When Penn bought the Sea Eagles for $7.5 million in 2009 he not only got the football team but got the Manly Leagues Club as well, where the true rivers of gold ran.
When the vote went to members former first grader and Manly developer Phil Franks, who had recent close links to the club, aggressively opposed the sale. Club chairman Bob Reilly had to interrupt Franks’ spiel to get on with the vote.
Manly co-owner Scott Penn has been the target of much criticism. (Tim Hunter.)
The hands went up and Manly members voted overwhelmingly in favour.
Sold.
As the hands were still being counted, a landslide, Franks stood and stopped at the door on the way out.
“Rest in peace,” he yelled.
Who ever knew he was a prophet.
Penn sold the leagues club land and its car park to Chinese investors in 2015 for a deal believed to be worth $35 million.
The Leagues Club lease runs out in May next year, which almost certainly spells the end for the failing Leagues Club.
It all masks something more, though, which is that the club has lost its soul.
The only roots tying the Sea Eagles to the northern peninsula after the club goes will be faded memories and a council-owned football ground.
And it seems not even they are enough.
Those faded memories were there a week before the grand final when Manly’s 1978 premiership team had their 40-year reunion at Manly Leagues Club.
These men were behind one of the greatest performances in rugby league history.
Busted and beaten, they played five games in 22 days, including two midweek replays, to claim the premiership.
Not one current Manly official bothered to wake from their sleepwalk and turn up.
Manly fans are doing it tough. (Mark Evans)
The apathy up top runs through the club. Penn doesn’t strike anyone as a football guy, and the lack of care filters through to fans who have stopped attending.
There was a time when Manly fans, almost proudly, refused to travel over the Spit Bridge. Now they struggle to get as far as Brookvale. Four out of every 10 fans at the game five years ago now no longer go.
Wherever they look the Sea Eagles are on a slow death march.
Since Toovey left Manly has suffered the worst fate of all for a professional sporting team. They have become boring.
“Guess What? Manly hates you too!” the sign on the Brookie hill says.
With options running out, Toovey looks the club’s best bet. (Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)
The club is operating $330,000 under the salary cap after it got busted cheating the cap.
Toovey would change the apathy.
He brings passion.
He is combative and pugnacious and forces you to care, one way or another.
If you don’t like him well, guess what, he doesn’t like you too.
That is what Manly needs more than anything.
Nice Beaver
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Aaaaaand he's back.
To be honest I can take it or leave it with Des, not convinced he is the messiah, but he is a better option than Cartwright. He'll smarten the place up and pull a few heads in, but hopefully they don't sign him for any more than two years so we can see what we are getting.
What will get me excited is if they can get Tooves back in the mix too. Unfinished business..... and he and Des as a package would be great.
What will get me excited is if they can get Tooves back in the mix too. Unfinished business..... and he and Des as a package would be great.
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true!! even the dogs when their side went stale were one of the strongest defensive sides in the comp with Des as coach. Defence is our main concern, and if we get that anywhere near that level again we can return to finals and give it a good shot in 2019
Ryan
Journey Man
Bet he wouldn't laugh at Des like Cartwright did with Barrett when we were getting flogged. Quite the opposite.
They may need a padded coaches box, because the rage between the two of them would be real!
And I'd love it.
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Holy ****, Des is back, don’t believe in god but I’ll pray for him over Cartwrong,Henry, Taylor. Unbelievable, how good, will be just the revival of manly we NEED. Hopefully he can bring back Tooves as well, our whole direction as a club could just have taken a massive swing from vertically down to three-quarters up, now just need someone like Tooves to fine-tune the squad, and cap, and help dessy bring home another premiership. We need a 2020s premiership to keep the tradition going, and if we get one, let alone two of these legends back, we can keep it up despite appearing as though this is a club close to death atmDes Hasler considers return to Manly Sea Eagles to take over from Trent Barrett as head coach
David Riccio, The Daily Telegraph
a minute ago
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DES Hasler will spend the next 48 hours considering a shock coaching comeback with the club that gave him his shot - the Manly Sea Eagles.
The Daily Telegraph has learned Hasler only has to agree to the Sea Eagles terms to take charge of the club he made his coaching debut with 15 years ago.
In damage-control and without stability within their football department in the wake of coach Trent Barrett’s ugly divorce from the club, the Sea Eagles believe Hasler is the panacea to their problems.
And it appears there’s plenty within the Manly club who agree, with the two-time premiership-winner contemplating a three-year deal which would enable him to commence the job few are willing to accept and return the club to its glory days.
Some say you can’t go back - but that won’t stop Des. (AAP Image/Dan Himbrechts)
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Manly are a club that needs Manly people to lead it and Hasler has a rich history on the peninsular.
Over eight seasons as coach, Hasler took the Sea Eagles to seven finals series, including victory in the 2008 and 2011 grand final.
He left the club at the end of 2011 to link with Canterbury - a move that delivered immediate results by making the 2012 grand final.
However, Hasler’s tenure at the Bulldogs finished in tears at the end of last year when he was released with two years remaining on his contract.
Hasler’s time in Canterbury ended in acrimony. (Stephen Cooper)
Hasler and Canterbury-Bankstown reached an out-of-court settlement for an undisclosed sum of money - with Dean Pay appointed his replacement in 2018.
In their search for a replacement for Barrett, Manly have been linked to several coaches including Michael Maguire, Neil Henry, John Cartwright, Geoff Toovey and Jason Taylor.
Yet Hasler - just as he likes his football team’s too - has flown under the radar as a candidate despite Manly chief executive Lyall Gorman meeting with the 57-year-old’s manager George Mimis this week.
Unlike a number of the coaching candidates the Sea Eagles have interviewed to replace Barrett, Hasler - for the same reason fans have called for Toovey to take over - isn’t afraid of the huge task ahead.
Having played 256-games for Manly before coaching them to 221 games, Hasler knows the club inside and out, the politics, the fans, the sponsors and the community.
He was also responsible for gifting Manly captain Daly Cherry-Evans his NRL debut in 2011.
The Sea Eagles, who weren’t willing to comment publicly last night, are expected to announce their new coach next week with Hasler in the box seat to return.
Found this old news article, must have always been the plan to get Des back if things did not work out with the face slap recipient.
Des Hasler To Return to Manly in 2018!
Speculation is growing that Bulldogs Coach Des Hasler is Set to return to Manly in 2018.
It is understood that Certain people in power at Manly are eager to bring Des back, but there’s resistance from others and their current coach Trent Barrett still has time left to run on his deal, which expires at the end of the 2018 season.
Des Hasler survived a board meeting 2 months ago and will coach Canterbury in 2017. Club legend Steve Mortimer was not so lucky, and will no longer be apart of the Bulldogs from 2017.
Hasler, 55, will no doubt be under fierce scrutiny from members and fans following a limp finals exit and inconsistent form over the course of 2016 and the same will go for Trent Barrett who first season coaching at the top level was less then impressive, winning just 8 games and finishing 13th on the ladder.
It is believed if Manly get off to a poor start to the 2017 season, Manly will have no choice but to sack Barrett and Des Hasler will be the first coach they will be chasing to help Manly become a power house was again, like they were when Hasler was last at the reign in the Norther Beaches….
The Saga is expected to run throughout the entire 2017 season….
Des Hasler To Return to Manly in 2018!
Speculation is growing that Bulldogs Coach Des Hasler is Set to return to Manly in 2018.
It is understood that Certain people in power at Manly are eager to bring Des back, but there’s resistance from others and their current coach Trent Barrett still has time left to run on his deal, which expires at the end of the 2018 season.
Des Hasler survived a board meeting 2 months ago and will coach Canterbury in 2017. Club legend Steve Mortimer was not so lucky, and will no longer be apart of the Bulldogs from 2017.
Hasler, 55, will no doubt be under fierce scrutiny from members and fans following a limp finals exit and inconsistent form over the course of 2016 and the same will go for Trent Barrett who first season coaching at the top level was less then impressive, winning just 8 games and finishing 13th on the ladder.
It is believed if Manly get off to a poor start to the 2017 season, Manly will have no choice but to sack Barrett and Des Hasler will be the first coach they will be chasing to help Manly become a power house was again, like they were when Hasler was last at the reign in the Norther Beaches….
The Saga is expected to run throughout the entire 2017 season….
redlineg
Reserve Grader
Very simple fix for this.
Apparently there is this absolute champion who also happens to be a Certified Practicing Accountant, providing tax advice to thousands
This Certified Practicing Accountant with a thorough understanding of all the complex Federal and State Tax Laws could be engaged to sort out a more simpler and less complex NRL Salary Cap.
This guy is Geoff Toovey, who should be engaged for recruitment and salary cap management, and let Des coach!
redlineg
Reserve Grader
Lets hope so!
Just wondering if this is in line with Mark's original source?
If not, don't care, the humor and rumor mill is most entertaining after a tough season!
IQofalimabean
Bencher
Desperate times.
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